[Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

Gerald Ardito gmanb5 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 13 08:33:06 EST 2010


Thanks so much for this.
With the 5th grade US students I work with, this customization is really
important to their sense of ownership.

By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a
very big deal for us.


On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org>wrote:

> On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:35 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > So +1 to look customization. E.g., why not allow to change the
> > gray frame color? In Etoys you can at least change the toolbar
> > color (not permanently though, I should fix that). Even if it
> > enrages our latte-drinking black-wearing designer friends ;)
> > they're kids after all ...
> I feel that Sugar should aim to reach the same level of "hackability" of
> eToys: every UI element is an object that you could drag, drop, copy or
> modify.
> Of course, this has consequences in terms of stability and clarity.
> Before we could unleash this power we need to think of ways to recover
> from mistakes. If multiple undo is too hard, a "restore everything to
> defaults" might be good enough.
> Perhaps we're worrying too much. Re-installing the system from USB takes
> only 3 minutes and is already being done very often. A boy just showed
> up on the door of the repair lab, saying: "se borrĂ³ el Navegador" (the
> Browse activity deleted itself :-)
> All we need to do is make the backup-update-restore procedure slightly
> more automated so that kids and teachers could do it without bothering
> the technicians.
> Actually, we don't even need to worry too much for a solid backup and
> restore procedure. I've always suspected that most kids wouldn't care
> about preserving their diary. Now it's confirmed: kids are flocking here
> to get the new version of Sugar even though their journals are not going
> to be preserved across the upgrade.
> On the other hand, teachers and teacher trainers always ask to preserve
> the content of their journal. Technicians use a pair of simple shell
> scripts to tar up the journal to a USB stick, so they don't depend on
> being within the range of the correct school server.
> I'll summarize all these things in a field report asap.
> --
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