Collaboration test environment problem

James Simmons jim.simmons at
Tue Mar 3 10:30:33 EST 2009


Last night both machines were able to see each other and I was able to 
do a successful file transfer with Read Etexts, so I guess its an 
intermittent problem.  I've never been able to have the two boxes see 
each other without specifying a jabber server.

I'll try using a different server the next time it happens.  Thanks,

James Simmons

Morgan Collett wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 17:46, Benjamin M. Schwartz
> <bmschwar at> wrote:
>> James Simmons wrote:
>>> I have two PCs running Fedora 10 and the Sugar RPMs that come with
>>> that.  One of the computers runs GNOME and the other uses Window Maker.
>>> I run sugar-emulate on both.  One copy of Sugar uses the name "jim" and
>>> the other uses "jsimmons".  Both use the
>>> jabber server.  Both are connected to the same router using Ethernet cables.
>>> When I go to the neighborhood view (F1) on both I see a number of
>>> "buddies".  However, while on the "jim" machine (Window Maker) I can see
>>> and invite "jsimmons".  When I look at the same view on "jsimmons"
>>> (GNOME) I  cannot see user "jim", although I can see other users.
>> Do they see the same other users?
>> is using the "shared roster", so every user
>> should be able to see every other user.  If the asymmetric visibility that
>> you describe persists for more than 10 minutes, then you have found an
>> extremely bizarre bug.
> No, that's not bizarre at all. I don't know who admins that server and
> what it's running. I've heard multiple reports of "A sees B, B doesn't
> see A" on that server. The bugs in the shared roster are more readily
> exposed in public jabber servers.
> You shouldn't need a server for two machines: if the machines don't
> see each other using link local presence (with no jabber server set)
> then it's a Fedora problem.
> If you really want to use a server, pick a different one from
> and try again.
> If possible, rather run 0.84.0* and use which
> uses the new gadget component for presence.
> (* Due to be released today...)
> Regards
> Morgan

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