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Wed Jun 17 06:45:57 EDT 2009


make ASLO compelling enough that future and existing deployments and
deploying organizations use it by default.

If any specific deployment organization wants to retain the wiki base
update mechanism it is up to them to maintain it.

david
david

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:53 AM, S Page<skierpage at gmail.com> wrote:
> [I removed some cc'd lists of which I'm not a member]
>
> Summary: Replacing http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All with
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0{{obsolete|link=3Dhttp://activities.sugarlabs.org}}
> sounds great to me.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Sean DALY<sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> OLPC has their list (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All) and we
>> need to get that page to link to ASLO ...
>
> I added a bullet to this and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities :
>
> * http://activities.sugarlabs.org has lots of activities for recent
> versions of the [[Sugar]] environment, ''some'' of which may work on
> OLPC [[builds]].
>
>> ..., the information there is uneven
>> (contains some stillborn/abandonware).
>
> The current split organization is a mess and duplication provides
> twice as many opportunities to be wrong. =C2=A0There's a dozen other list=
s
> of "all activities" on wiki.laptop.org besides the Activities/All
> page, see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries , killing off
> some isn't going to hurt. =C2=A0So just be brave and change it to
> {{obsolete|link=3Dhttp://activities.sugarlabs.org}}
>
>> Perhaps the easiest fix would
>> be to link from each Activity position on that page to that Activity's
>> ASLO page;
> Sure, you could replace the fancy activity descriptions on
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/All with a simple link to their
> ASLO page.
>
>> people searching the Activity population would quickly
>> understand the different/parallel nature of the OLPC page and ASLO.
>
> If you can understand it, please explain it ;-) =C2=A0 Activities/All
> claims "This is a list of all stable Activities =C2=A0that can be install=
ed
> in the latest Sugar.", but
> * they are NOT all getting updated
> * "latest Sugar" meaning what? =C2=A0OLPC doesn't ship latest Sugar.
>
>> As
>> far as I know, there aren't any issues with the very latest versions
>> running on XO-1s, would I be correct in assuming this?
>
> You're incorrect. =C2=A0Sugar 0.84 is different from the Sugar 0.82.1 in
> OLPC release 8.2.0 and 8.2.1. I understand there are issues for
> Browse, Etoys, and Read which depend on libraries and already have
> separate "latest versions". =C2=A0I assume some other activities have
> problems. =C2=A0Unfortunately, most activity pages on a.sl.o and on
> wiki.laptop.org don't specify their compatibility clearly, and it's
> impossible to tell the difference between "Old version NN is still
> truly the latest version that works on OLPC's 8.2" and "Nobody's
> bloody updated this out-of-date info".
>
>> Or does OLPC
>> prefer to identify "known good" version, the ones updated through the
>> XO Control Panel?
>
> In OLPC release 8.2.0 and subsequent releases, the Software update
> control panel updates installed activities using a complex fallback
> mechanism involving *other, separate* pages such as Activities/8.2
> and/or Activities/G1G1/8.2 , see
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_update . =C2=A0Those subpages are wher=
e
> "known good version" info must live for Software update to work, while
> other activity pages are mostly useless out-of-date cruft. Maintaining
> all these pages is manual and complicated, see
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Maintaining_activity_web_information , and
> for many activities it isn't happening.
>
> Hope this helps,
> --
> =3DS Page
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