is anyone actually doing Windows on XO work here?
Bastien
bastienguerry at googlemail.com
Tue Jul 21 04:45:07 EDT 2009
Thanks *very much* for these explanations.
I hope this kind of information can find its way through the OLPC blog,
maybe with a little more context. Then we can fight the FUD by linking
to these explanations.
Coyping sj, as I think he's responsible for OLPC's blog, but I might be
wrong about this.
Mitch Bradley <wmb at laptop.org> writes:
>>
>> Now AFAIK, there's little to no Windows work being done in-house by
>> the OLPC team, and it's all or mostly at Microsoft's side that the
>> work's being done.
>>
>
> At the moment, OLPC is doing approximately zero work on Windows. That
> wasn't true last year. I spent several months last year making it
> possible to boot Windows from Open Firmware. The reason I did that was
> to prevent Microsoft from "taking over" the XO machine. Their plan was
> to purchase machines and instruct the factory to reflash their SPI FLASH
> boot ROM with a conventional BIOS - which would have prevented OLPC's
> Linux from working. It would have been possible to boot a different
> Linux distro from that BIOS, but it would not have been bootable from
> NAND FLASH, the OLPC security would not have been available, OLPC's
> special power management would not have worked, and the OFW-resident
> management features like diagnostics and NAND update would have been
> lost. Essentially it would have been a one-way ticket to Microsoft land.
>
> That one-way road was unacceptable to Nicholas. He insisted that, if
> any machines were to be able to run Windows, they must be able to dual-boot.
>
> Microsoft already had the one-way solution working, with only the barest
> amount of involvement from the OLPC team - essentially, I answered a few
> questions that Microsoft's rep posed to me. The time I spent doing that
> was comparable to the time I spent answering similar questions from
> people porting other operating systems, such as Minix, Plan 9, and ReactOS.
>
> The big chunks of time that I spent on Microsoft-related stuff were not
> to make Windows run on the XO - that was already a done deal. I spent
> the time to enable OFW to dual-boot Windows and Linux, thus preventing
> "Windows only" XOs.
>
> That work paid off in another way for XO-1.5. The ACPI infrastructure
> necessary to run Windows on XO-1 let us to use a more "standard" Linux
> kernel for XO-1.5. That's good in that it helps our chances of meeting
> our tight schedule with our modest system software resources, and
> reduces the amount of upstream merging that we must do. It's bad from
> the standpoint that XO-1.5 is looking more and more like a conventional
> PC, thus bringing it dangerously close to the "black hole" of the PC
> industry that sucks everything into the commodity ecosystem in which
> Intel has near-total control over the evolution of the system architecture.
>
> It's possible - even likely - that I will have to spend some time in the
> next few months to make Windows boot on XO-1.5. I expect that will go
> quite quickly compared to the last effort, as the XO-1 work should carry
> over.
>
> Mitch
>
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