AMD to stop working on Geodes

Tiago Marques tiagomnm at
Tue Jan 27 19:50:10 EST 2009

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Carlos Nazareno <object404 at>wrote:

> it's the low power part that's very important here. it's the XO's
> incredibly low power consumption that really sets it apart from any
> other currently in production computer (excluding smartphones and
> pdas).

Of course! But, I was quite disapointed when I knew that the 0.9W they
announce for the Geode LX is only the idle power, on typical usage it's more
LX 800 at 0.9 W: clock speed: 500 MHz, with power consumption: 1.8 watts. (*TDP
3.6 W*)
Borrowed this line from wikipedia. Now take a look at this one:
Atom Z500, 800 MHz, 512 KiB, 0.80 - 1.1V, *0.65 W TDP, 160 mW* *idle* - $20
As much as I don't really like Intel for the Classmate, this is miles ahead
of the Geode LX. And it's not what I'd call expensive, although I don't have
an ideia of how much the Geode in the XO costs.

> I'm not really familiar with the new processors from Intel
> (silverthorne, diamondville) and Via's, but can they run at as low
> power consumption as the Geode and provide the same (and if not
> better) MHz bang for the consumption?
> Do ARM processors do these things better than anything else on the
> market right now? but then you lose the X86 compatibility and this
> probably breaks things for cross-platform upstream contributions for
> any deved/researched write-once-run-many apps/projects. (correct me if
> I'm wrong, am just speculating because I'm not a CE and as well-versed
> with computer architecture)
> Some laptop manufacturers are designing hybrid laptops with a regular x86
processor and an ARM to boot a small linux distribution from flash, so it
must not be that bad. AFAIK, ARM and Canonical will be doing a push for ARM
Linux in the coming months.

> I've always loved AMD's cool and quiet technology and am pretty much
> cursing the unrelenting power draw of my core2-quad desktop coz my UPS
> battery life has gone down the drain and electric bill has spiked so
> high since I replaced my lowly Sempron.
> (I do have the need for speed for rendering)
Pretty much all of Intel's power management sucks, even in laptops. Mostly
they don't allow the CPU to clock too low, for whatever reason, while AMD
can clock down to 800-1GHz almost all CPUs.
Also, do you know one thing that Celeron Ms lack is power management?
Unbelievable, given their target market.

> As for games, can we just classify the XO in the same class as
> current-gen smartphones horsepower wise and not market it as anything
> other than that? That's pretty much how we're running the Flash Dev
> for the XO project because that's exactly how the XO performs (and
> it's a hell of a lot better than any smartphone in the market for
> heavier mobile computing and education!)
Right you are, I love this little piece of hardware.
Best regards,
                                 Tiago Marques

> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Martin Langhoff
> <martin.langhoff at> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno <object404 at>
> wrote:
> >> AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight
> >> AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power
> >> chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes.
> >>
> >
> > This has been relatively well known in the industry for a while. It
> > means they'll keep cranking more Geodes if you want to buy them, but
> > there will not be a "next" Geode chip. Maybe they'll come out with
> > another low-power cpu line sometime in the future, maybe not.
> >
> > Intel and Via are the most interesting options right now in this
> > space, and both seem to be working on a "next" chip.
> >
> > PCWorld and friends are for the consumer market, so they are about a
> > year behind on the news I'd say...
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> >
> > m
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