Wine activity

Wade Brainerd wadetb at gmail.com
Tue Jan 6 10:18:01 EST 2009


The point is that even with all the time in the world, one could not
port everything.  There are millions of man hours invested in
educational Windows program which could run on the XO, I'm just
suggesting that we spend some time collecting and packaging the better
ones into WineLearning.

It's also a political move, since deployments can see that Windows
programs do indeed run on the XO without needing to switch OSes.

If I had a week or two sure, I could port CueCard, but I've got other
priorities and Urko Roman's Assimilate activity seems to have the slot
generally covered.

-Wade

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Ixo X oxI <ixo at myna.ws> wrote:
> Wade,
>   :)  Any hope of just convincing you to port your program to python/sugar,
> so it runs the best under sugar?
> :)
>
> -Ixo
>
> 2009/1/4 Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
>>
>> Has anyone considered doing a scan of download.com and similar sites for
>> small, free educational software for Windows, and then bundling them with
>> this Wine activity?
>>
>> I'm the author of CueCard, which is a flash card training program for
>> Windows.  I have tested and it works great under Vincent's Wine activity.  I
>> know there are lots of other free, simple educational programs for Windows
>> and it would be great to be able to offer a 'Wine bundle' activity with a
>> bunch of them pre-installed.
>>
>> I think deployments ought to consider this as well.  They can think of it
>> as "Windows training" for their students :)
>>
>> -Wade
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A popular program that has been requested a few times via Wine is
>>> Let's Go for english learning.
>>> This activity definitely needs its own section on
>>> wiki.laptop.org/go/Wine ...  SJ
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittler at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > That's awesome work! I was able to install Wine and use it, including
>>> > firefox and a win32 application I had previously build using mingw32
>>> > under Linux on another PC and uploaded to a webserver, and then
>>> > downloaded using firefox inside wine. However, I did notice the
>>> > following oddities:
>>> >
>>> > 1. When I later resumed the activity from the journal, the wallpaper
>>> > was gone and nothing worked, although the start-menu items for firefox
>>> > were still there.
>>> >
>>> > 2. It was not clear to me how to save wine's state to the journal.
>>> >
>>> > 3. At some point the usual 'leave full-screen mode' icon appeared in
>>> > the upper-right corner, but clicking it seemed to have no effect other
>>> > than to make it disappear, i.e. no sugar UI appeared and the desktop
>>> > size did not change.
>>> >
>>> > 4. Wine crashed when I used Firefox's download manager to open the
>>> > location of a downloaded file (winefile appeared briefly, then the
>>> > whole activity crashed.) I have no idea why yet, but perhaps there is
>>> > some information left in a log file somewhere I will find.
>>> >
>>> > On the bright side, this means it's fairly trivial to run at least
>>> > some "windows-only" software on the OLPC now, which is great when
>>> > there's not yet a Sugar or Linux version.
>>> >
>>> > -Ben
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Vincent Povirk
>>> > <madewokherd+8cd9 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> The Wine activity has advanced to the point where I think it's ready
>>> >> for testing by actual users.
>>> >>
>>> >> The current package, development history, and my todo list are at
>>> >> http://wiki.winehq.org/SugaredWine
>>> >>
>>> >> The intent of this project is to provide a shell that can be used to
>>> >> run Windows programs using Wine in the Sugar environment. It should be
>>> >> good enough that someone used to Windows can grab and install a
>>> >> Windows program without help, once the activity is installed. Ideally,
>>> >> the installer and software will both work fine in Wine and within the
>>> >> hardware limitations of an XO. In this ideal case, someone used to
>>> >> Windows should be able to operate it without help.
>>> >>
>>> >> If it does not live up to this ideal for platinum software (according
>>> >> to the Wine appdb) whose hardware requirements the XO meets, I want to
>>> >> know about it and hopefully fix it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Wine bugs and hardware limitations mean a lot of Windows programs
>>> >> won't work or won't work properly. On Linux, one can often push the
>>> >> compatibility much further than what works "out of the box" by looking
>>> >> at console messages (the log viewer works for this) and tweaking Wine.
>>> >> Don't expect everything to work perfectly, but don't give up if it
>>> >> doesn't. This is normal, even on Linux.
>>> >>
>>> >> Winehq.org has support channels for such cases (appdb, bugzilla,
>>> >> mailing lists, and the winehq irc channel). Most of the people there
>>> >> probably don't know anything about Sugared Wine, but collectively they
>>> >> should know more than I do about making Wine work in general. If a
>>> >> program doesn't work for you, you can go to any of those places for
>>> >> support. You can also email sugaredwine at codeweavers.com. That goes
>>> >> directly to me for now, but in the future (maybe the very near future)
>>> >> I may decide to send it somewhere public, like a mailing list,
>>> >> instead.
>>> >>
>>> >> Wine and the code that I developed for this project are licensed under
>>> >> the GNU LGPL. The entire package isn't quite LGPL because I included
>>> >> 7-zip. 7-zip is LGPL + unRAR restriction (you're not allowed to use
>>> >> the source code to create a RAR compressor).
>>> >>
>>> >> If you have a program that works well in this Wine package and would
>>> >> like to package it as a stand-alone .xo, please let me know. I already
>>> >> did most of the work for this so that I could include 7-zip and a
>>> >> firefox downloader/installer (and I could probably have included
>>> >> firefox itself if not for the fact that it would require uploading
>>> >> non-open-source code to repo.or.cz).
>>> >>
>>> >> Vincent Povirk
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