Ixo X oxI
ixo at myna.ws
Tue Jan 6 01:11:48 EST 2009
:) Any hope of just convincing you to port your program to python/sugar,
so it runs the best under sugar?
2009/1/4 Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
> Has anyone considered doing a scan of download.com and similar sites for
> small, free educational software for Windows, and then bundling them with
> this Wine activity?
> I'm the author of CueCard, which is a flash card training program for
> Windows. I have tested and it works great under Vincent's Wine activity. I
> know there are lots of other free, simple educational programs for Windows
> and it would be great to be able to offer a 'Wine bundle' activity with a
> bunch of them pre-installed.
> I think deployments ought to consider this as well. They can think of it
> as "Windows training" for their students :)
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> A popular program that has been requested a few times via Wine is
>> Let's Go for english learning.
>> This activity definitely needs its own section on
>> wiki.laptop.org/go/Wine ... SJ
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittler at gmail.com>
>> > That's awesome work! I was able to install Wine and use it, including
>> > firefox and a win32 application I had previously build using mingw32
>> > under Linux on another PC and uploaded to a webserver, and then
>> > downloaded using firefox inside wine. However, I did notice the
>> > following oddities:
>> > 1. When I later resumed the activity from the journal, the wallpaper
>> > was gone and nothing worked, although the start-menu items for firefox
>> > were still there.
>> > 2. It was not clear to me how to save wine's state to the journal.
>> > 3. At some point the usual 'leave full-screen mode' icon appeared in
>> > the upper-right corner, but clicking it seemed to have no effect other
>> > than to make it disappear, i.e. no sugar UI appeared and the desktop
>> > size did not change.
>> > 4. Wine crashed when I used Firefox's download manager to open the
>> > location of a downloaded file (winefile appeared briefly, then the
>> > whole activity crashed.) I have no idea why yet, but perhaps there is
>> > some information left in a log file somewhere I will find.
>> > On the bright side, this means it's fairly trivial to run at least
>> > some "windows-only" software on the OLPC now, which is great when
>> > there's not yet a Sugar or Linux version.
>> > -Ben
>> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Vincent Povirk
>> > <madewokherd+8cd9 at gmail.com <madewokherd%2B8cd9 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> The Wine activity has advanced to the point where I think it's ready
>> >> for testing by actual users.
>> >> The current package, development history, and my todo list are at
>> >> http://wiki.winehq.org/SugaredWine
>> >> The intent of this project is to provide a shell that can be used to
>> >> run Windows programs using Wine in the Sugar environment. It should be
>> >> good enough that someone used to Windows can grab and install a
>> >> Windows program without help, once the activity is installed. Ideally,
>> >> the installer and software will both work fine in Wine and within the
>> >> hardware limitations of an XO. In this ideal case, someone used to
>> >> Windows should be able to operate it without help.
>> >> If it does not live up to this ideal for platinum software (according
>> >> to the Wine appdb) whose hardware requirements the XO meets, I want to
>> >> know about it and hopefully fix it.
>> >> Wine bugs and hardware limitations mean a lot of Windows programs
>> >> won't work or won't work properly. On Linux, one can often push the
>> >> compatibility much further than what works "out of the box" by looking
>> >> at console messages (the log viewer works for this) and tweaking Wine.
>> >> Don't expect everything to work perfectly, but don't give up if it
>> >> doesn't. This is normal, even on Linux.
>> >> Winehq.org has support channels for such cases (appdb, bugzilla,
>> >> mailing lists, and the winehq irc channel). Most of the people there
>> >> probably don't know anything about Sugared Wine, but collectively they
>> >> should know more than I do about making Wine work in general. If a
>> >> program doesn't work for you, you can go to any of those places for
>> >> support. You can also email sugaredwine at codeweavers.com. That goes
>> >> directly to me for now, but in the future (maybe the very near future)
>> >> I may decide to send it somewhere public, like a mailing list,
>> >> instead.
>> >> Wine and the code that I developed for this project are licensed under
>> >> the GNU LGPL. The entire package isn't quite LGPL because I included
>> >> 7-zip. 7-zip is LGPL + unRAR restriction (you're not allowed to use
>> >> the source code to create a RAR compressor).
>> >> If you have a program that works well in this Wine package and would
>> >> like to package it as a stand-alone .xo, please let me know. I already
>> >> did most of the work for this so that I could include 7-zip and a
>> >> firefox downloader/installer (and I could probably have included
>> >> firefox itself if not for the fact that it would require uploading
>> >> non-open-source code to repo.or.cz).
>> >> Vincent Povirk
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