Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Tue Feb 24 12:03:40 EST 2009


when several weeks ago you showed me in #sugar your patches to Sugar
and explained the new rainbow concept, I told you that it seemed a
good idea and that the patches looked pretty good.

As you said Rainbow wasn't ready for 0.84, I told you that we would
talk again when work on 0.86 starts. Which it hasn't yet, afaik.

So I don't think you should feel sad because of our schedule. All
projects need one and it's good to try stick to it.

I will repeat that I think Rainbow can be a very important part of
Sugar and that we should see how integration should happen, but I'm
afraid I cannot directly help you with coding, etc because as you know
I'm very tied with 0.84 right now.

Hope it clarifies,


On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 17:24, Michael Stone <michael at laptop.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 01:47:01AM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>>[Also, I'm hearing whispers of 'no Rainbow' after Joyride.]
> Mikus,
> In my view, it's up to the SugarLabs folks to use Rainbow or to drop it. I have
> tried to clear the way for them to use it on all the platforms they care about
> by simplifying it, by making it more generically useful, by writing some basic
> .deb and .rpm packaging in order to ease testing, and by writing Sugar patches
> which cause Sugar to use it. Unfortunately, in the two months since I
> announced this work:
>    http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2008-December/010528.html
> and since I spoke about it at Fudcon Boston in January, I have received no
> feedback more serious than a (kind) thank-you note from Walter, let alone
> testing, bug reports, or patches. As you might imagine, this overwhelming
> response leaves me more than a little bit discouraged.
> Now, it could certainly be the case that there's more work that I need to do in
> the form of documenting, testing, or pushing my recent rainbows before people
> will be excited about trying them out and, if that's the case, someone should
> tell me. Since no one has done so to date, despite repeated overtures, I've
> mostly come to believe that no one cares.
> Do you know differently?
> Michael
> P.S. - I find this state of affairs particularly sad, since I think there's an
> /increasing/ amount of awesomeness that Rainbow can provide, e.g., bringing all
> the recent hard work the kernel folks have been putting in on network
> containerization and memory-resource cgroups "to the masses".
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