[Sugar-devel] Is Project Ceibal violating the GNU General Public License?

[John Watlington]

On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:

> Pareciera ser que estamos en una situación de violación de la  
> licencia...
>
> Una pregunta, deduzco entonces que OLPC no está a cargo de
> entregar las claves de desarrollador para las XO que están en Perú -
> me pregunto:
Las maquinas Peruanas todavia usan las claves de OLPC.

> En Perú, cómo puede un maestro o un chico, solicitar una clave de  
> desarrollador?

Se puede solicitar una clave de desarollador a través del sitio web  
de OLPC.

> Hernán? Koke?
>
> Debemos asegurarnos que nuestros estados estén cumpliendo con
> las condiciones de la licencia.
>
> Gracias
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2009/8/24 Andrés Ambrois <andresambrois at gmail.com>:
>> On Monday 24 August 2009 10:11:54 am Walter Bender wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:48 AM, John Gilmore<gnu at toad.com> wrote:
>>>> Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1  
>>>> users in Uy
>>>>
>>>>> Remember that Ceibal XOs have root access locked-down. And I  
>>>>> recently
>>>>> found out that since the key-delegation stuff was implemented,  
>>>>> we can't
>>>>> request developer keys. Not from OLPC at least, and LATU is not
>>>>> providing that service that I know...
>>>>
>>>> Could someone please clarify this?
>>>
>>> According to Ceilbal (24-08-09):
>>>
>>> "We have delivered developer keys in the past, and we will  
>>> deliver them to
>>> the owner of the machine upon request."
>>>
>>> Therefore, I do not think that there is a violation of the GPL.
>>
>> I wrote to Ceibal asking for information and this is what they  
>> replied:
>>
>> "Hola Andrés,
>> Debido al sistema de seguridad incorporado en la XO, el Plan  
>> Ceibal no brinda
>> la clave de desarrollador. Esto se debe, a que una persona con  
>> acceso a la
>> clave podría desactivar la seguridad de la máquina.
>>  Cualquier otra consulta, no dudes en volver a comunicarte."
>>
>> Translation:
>>
>> Hello Andrés,
>>
>> Because of the security system built into the XO, Plan Ceibal  
>> doesn't provide
>> developer keys. This is because a person with access to the key could
>> deactivate the security of the machine.
>> Don't hesitate in contacting us for any other questions.
>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>>> It sounds like Project Ceibal is explicitly violating the GNU  
>>>> General
>>>> Public License on much or all of the software that it ships:
>>>>
>>>>  *  It provides binaries without source code, and without a written
>>>>     offer of source code.
>>>>
>>>>  *  It provides binaries in a physical form (laptop) which is
>>>>     protected against modification by the end-user, so that those
>>>>     users cannot replace the GPLv3-licensed software on the laptop
>>>>     with later versions.  More than 20 packages shipped are GPLv3
>>>>     licensed, as of 12 months ago, including the Coreutils (most
>>>>     shell commands), tar and cpio (used for software updates), and
>>>>     gettext (internationalization).  GPLv3 requires that the  
>>>> relevant
>>>>     passwords or keys must be supplied to the end user -- including
>>>>     both the "developer key" and the root password.
>>>>
>>>>  *  Some programs are modified, but the modified versions are not
>>>>     marked to distinguish them from the original GPL-licensed
>>>>     programs.
>>>>
>>>> There are other less important violations as well (most are  
>>>> documented
>>>> at bugs.laptop.org; search for "GPL").
>>>>
>>>> I would be happy to learn that the children receiving these laptops
>>>> have full access to source code, ability to upgrade their laptops
>>>> at will, and can tell modified from unmodified software.  Please  
>>>> let
>>>> me know what is really happening in the schools of Uruguay.
>>>>
>>>>        John Gilmore
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>>
>> --
>>  -Andrés
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