Devel Digest, Vol 38, Issue 1

Martin Langhoff martin.langhoff at
Thu Apr 2 10:20:17 EDT 2009

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Mitch Bradley <wmb at> wrote:
> It's nice to say they should "see the light", but in my experience talking
> to many such companies, the fact of the matter is that it is a hard nut for
> them to swallow.

I am under the impression that the relation between the OS vendor (and
kernel/driver devs on the OS side) and the HW companies (with their hw
and driver devs) is full of hard nuts to swallow. From reading horror
stories around winhec, and ms bloggers making strained comments about
driver developers, it doesn't sound like a bed of roses :-) But, for
good or bad, management has gotten used to the dynamic w Redmond.

But I don't work close to the hardware. You do. So I shut up now :-)

> in the competitive commercial landscape...

I concede that point... to a point :-) I am interested in discussing
the meatier parts of whether the commiditization that FOSS has applied
to sw affects hw and how some time over a beer. As I said, I'm new to
this hardware thing.

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