[Techteam] Weekend Report - due today

Samuel Klein meta.sj at gmail.com
Wed Sep 3 14:46:08 EDT 2008


@bastien -- Java works fine on the XO; you should try it with specific apps.

@ Gary -- Model is very close to a new release; nudge Bobby about it :-)

SJ

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:

> On 3 Sep 2008, at 13:36, Greg Smith wrote:
>
> > Cmap tools (http://cmap.ihmc.us/) is a client server application that
> > appears to have pretty good traction in schools, mostly in South
> > America. We have a request to make it work on the XO. I exchanged some
> > e-mails with Alberto Canas (con enye) who is the main application
> > owner.
>
> ...
>
> > The first point seems solvable if they just install Java afterwards.
> > Then we don't need to worry about licenses. Its a big install but
> > probably not a deal breaker. The performance may be challenging but
> > again I think we can make it fit.
> >
> > The second point is a tougher problem. Alberto thinks they could
> > re-write the application to work with tiled windows so they all fit on
> > the XO. The other idea I have heard is that we could run an activity
> > which is X-Windows. Then you could launch this activity within that
> > one.
> > That may affect performance and would need testing. For the first idea
> > of rebuilding the Cmap tools for sugar, we would need engineers to
> > work
> > on that which brings me to the third point.
> >
> > I'm not sure what free but not open source means. I think it means
> > that
> > we can not take a snapshot of their code and fork it nor can we modify
> > it and push it back to them. We need to find a way for Alberto to hire
> > more engineers if we want them to improve the implementation for the
> > XO.
> >
> > The only good idea so far is the X-windows in Sugar idea.
> >
> > I'm open to other suggestions on this. Questions and comments
> > welcome too.
> >
> > I know of one opportunity in Latin America which is being held up by
> > this. There may be more in the future, we'll see. The pedagogical
> > specialists here tell me that concept maps are pretty hot in education
> > right now. They also pointed me to a commercial tool which some
> > schools
> > use: http://www.inspirationsoftware.com/
> >
> > Does anyone know of an open source solution in this area?
>
> I'm a bit of a mindmapper/diagrammer type. If you're looking for free
> and Open Source you want to look at freemind. It's very competitive vs
> the commercial mapping tools and also supports a number of external
> file formats, it's another Java app so would need that extra install.
>
>        http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>
> The other tool worth a poke is the more general purpose graphviz, also
> free and Open Source, it's command line but there are some GUI's out
> there also. Could be a very nice Activity to wrap a simple GTK GUI
> around the tool chain:
>
>        http://www.graphviz.org/
>
> Also want to point you to the Model activity if you've not tried it.
> It's rough and incomplete at my last testing, but seems to be a
> potentially interesting diagramming tool. The wiki talks of "easily
> sketch and simulate system dynamics models" which seemed a pretty
> scary opening paragraph – I'd be happy with just a good diagramming
> tool :-) Dev work seems to have gone quiet :-(
>
>        http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Model
>
> > If the customers want cmap tools, my first choice is to make that
> > work.
> > That's what I'm focusing on right now albeit lower priority than
> > shipping 8.2 :-).
>
> --Gary
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