notes from the field - Mongolia

Deniz Kural denizkural at
Fri Oct 10 16:48:09 EDT 2008

I see how my email wasn't so nice. Apologies for increasing the animosity
level. I was merely trying show how USB transfer from:

1) Xo to Xo
2) Other platform to Xo
could be useful.

Marco, I'm glad to have provoked a laugh, I was indeed joking. I don't even
know you.
I agree with Martin -- I thought he didn't write anything offensive. I will
follow your advice, Edward, Tomeu.

So to stay on topic,

1) I understand that there is in fact an easy way to transfer files between
XOs with a USB (which I believe is necessary per the conditions in Mongolia
- people living in mobile yurts, even in the largest city and the capital
etc. as explained). In the future, if one day the network is universal, and
the mesh works etc. I can see why we wouldn't need it.

2) I understand that sugar might not have been intended to work with other
OS's, and should be thought of as an educational tool meant for children
instead of a general all-purpose laptop computer.

But I also think, since this is a significant investment for many people,
referring to my original example of  a teacher  typing up a reading (from a
book let's say, or a handout)  on a regular computer s/he already has back
home, and being able to transfer files back and forth on an Xo so s/he can
distribute it to his/her students.

Thus, to fulfill its educational mission, Sugar cannot be a closed box.


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at> wrote:

> 2008/10/10 Deniz Kural <denizkural at>:
> > This whole "why would you need a USB in mongolia?"  conversation shows
> how
> > out of touch some people on this list are with the people the project is
> > trying to reach.
> Deniz,
> this list if composed by people from all around the world, some of
> which have had contact with some cultures, others with other cultures.
> What we have in common is the desire to build a software platform that
> others can use to learn themselves and to teach others.
> As we have the wish that our work is universally used, we'll need to
> teach each other how is life in every part of the world and how we can
> better work so it serves best everywhere. Mikus hasn't been afraid of
> showing his ignorance about how USB sticks are used in Mongolia and
> you have kindly replied with an useful explanation.
> I hope we can keep sharing experiences like this but with a bit less
> of animosity.
> Regards,
> Tomeu
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