"Walter Bender": Re: devkeys, prettyboot, and G1G1

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Thu Oct 2 13:02:57 EDT 2008


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Erik Garrison <erik at laptop.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 12:07:51AM -0400, Bobby Powers wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I don't mind if the G1G1 donors have the option to participate in
>> > testing secured laptops, but I utterly reject the notion that we can
>> > jerk customer/donors around like this without their permission in
>> > advance. They _will_ complain publicly.
>> While it is a SMALL hassle, I don't understand how it is jerking
>> customers around before they've even bought a machine.  As long as the
>> policy (whatever it turns out to be) is clearly stated on the
>> wiki/amazon site, by purchasing a laptop they are consenting to this.
>> With that said, I would probably lean towards preferring unsecured
>> machines (with pretty boot enabled, of course).
> Such small hassles, when repeated across hundreds of thousands of
> people, tend to eat up a lot of time.  We should be trying to save users
> this time.
> I think we have sufficiently utilized G1G1 users to test our security
> system.  My general perception is this test demonstrated that a
> significant fraction of users want unlocked laptops so that they can do
> interesting things.  Even if the average user doesn't care about what an
> unlocked laptop allows them to do, what is the harm in shipping
> developer keys on all the G1G1 laptops?
> We'll save everyone who wants to install non-standard builds the time
> required to learn about and obtain developer keys.  We'll save the
> support costs required to process and answer all the queries about
> developer keys.  And we'll reduce the infrastructural costs of managing
> the generation of the keys.
> Erik
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Walter Bender
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