New update.1 build 696
bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Mar 5 10:21:21 EST 2008
On Mar 5, 2008, at 16:08 , C. Scott Ananian wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Bert Freudenberg
> <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>> No, the etoys RPM is different from the Etoys activity. It is in the
>> base build and cannot be removed, because Squeak is one of the
>> supported languages of the XO platform (see http://laptop.org/en/
>> laptop/software/specs.shtml). So Squeak-based activities like Etoys,
>> DrGeo, BotsInc, etc. can still be installed.
> Yes, at the moment we are still installing necessary RPMs for all of
> the supported activities. At some point, not soon, we might gradually
> try to remove these one by one to make activities more self-contained,
> and remove the artificial distinction between OLPC-supported
> activities and activities created by the community. We won't be able
> to do that until we've got a robust activity updater which supports
> sharing common files between activities, etc. (See trac #4951).
I'm not entirely sure what you are suggesting here.
The XO software is a platform, supporting a few select programming
environments, as detailed in the spec I linked above. These do not
have to be provided by the activities. The activities *are* self-
contained if they only depend on these runtime environments, just
like they depend on the X11 library, D-Bus, the Linux kernel etc.
without having to include those.
>> Nevertheless I would hope that Etoys (as well as TurtleArt and
>> TamTam) would come pre-installed on a "learning machine".
> I believe Walter is so urging countries. That's a policy question for
> Walter, not a technical question about the builds.
Well, as Ben commented on the ticket, there is no technical reason to
have Chat, Write, Record, Paint etc. in the base build, either.
- Bert -
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