Why is Terminal 'extra' ?

[Walter Bender]

This whole discussion has gone awry. The presumed "core" activities
had better be about streamlining the build engineering process, not
the epistemological goals of the project. We cannot ship laptops with
learning tools, of which the terminal is one. More later, when I
amback online.

-walter

On 3/6/08, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, this was one of the aspects we like about the new design.  Your
> suggestion reinforces the whole intent of the two views within Home.
> Regardless, we likely want to retain their presence within the Library so
> that kids can manage (including deletion of) activities without winding up
> entirely without access to these tools.
>
> - Eben
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian <cscott at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com> wrote:
> > >  > Was not aware of the implications of "the official builds from now
> > >  >  on will contain only _base_ Activities" (discussed in Ticket #6598),
> > >  >  until I saw a recent post to the Sugar list.
> > >  >
> > >  >  I happen to be a heavy CLI user.  It appears the target countries
> > >  >  for OLPC deployment have not insisted on CLI - hence Terminal is
> > >  >  being omitted from the _base_ software distribution.  I'm presuming
> > >  >  not all users in the field will have a connection whereby to
> > >  >  download 'extra' Activities omitted from the _base_.  That leaves
> > >  >  the text console as the "approved" OLPC CLI interface.
> > >
> > >  Terminal, Log Viewer, and Analyze are not included in the core build,
> > >  but they *are* included in the core *library*.  That is, you can
> > >  always install them, even though they may not show up by default in
> > >  the toolbar.
> > >
> > >  Now, there are people who feel strongly that Terminal should appear in
> > >  the default toolbar.  I don't have a strong personal opinion pro or
> > >  con on this.  But it *must* be (and is) *available* (even if not
> > >  'installed by default) because it is essential for OLPC to diagnose
> > >  and fix problems in the field -- although it is probably not useful
> > >  (and possibly even confusing) to many naive users.
> >
> > It is scheduled for update.2 some changes to the home view and the
> > frame such that activities won't be launched from the frame. See more
> > in the link below:
> >
> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Activity_Management
> >
> > With these changes, I wonder if all the activities that are shipped in
> > the library should be installed instead (but not marked as favorites).
> >
> > Tomeu
> >
> >
> >
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Walter Bender
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