On Cerebro, Telepathy, yokes and whites (was Re: cerebro in sugar)
C. Scott Ananian
cscott at laptop.org
Tue Jun 10 20:01:24 EDT 2008
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<mpgritti at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
> <ypod at mit.edu> wrote:
> * The abstraction layer needs to be accessible to non-python
> activities. Unless you want to expose it through DBus, you will have
> to write it in C (with python bindings). And if I'm not mistake
> Cerebro is written in python.
So expose it through DBus. This is done already, if I understand correctly.
> * I haven't seen any concrete technical argument against telepathy *API* so far.
I've got a concrete non-technical objection: kids at gamejams
invariably want to write a multiplayer game. Almost none succeed.
This tells me we need a better collaboration API.
You can argue that this "simple" API should be *on top* of the
lower-level telepathy (or cerebro) API, and I won't argue. But we
need *something* which a 12-year old can use.
> If you think telepathy API is irremediably broken, I suggest you focus
> on coming up with an alternative which meets all the requirements
> (included working for non python activities) and at the same time it's
> technically superior to the telepathy one (enough to be worth an API
> break of these dimensions).
My personal metric revolves around tutorials: can you write a simple
and straightforward guide to using your API? I haven't seen such a
thing yet for telepathy or cerebro; the first one to come up with such
a thing would score points in my personal metric (not the only one
which counts, of course).
http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/ <-- for big kids
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