Tuesday Release Meeting - Notes

Sameer Verma sverma at sfsu.edu
Thu Jul 10 12:46:45 EDT 2008


Greg Smith wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Great notes! Short and informative. I don't you or Gobby gets the 
> credit, but thanks regardless.
>
> Two suggestions for next week's meeting.
>
> 1 - Let's take agenda items in advance and set the agenda in advance. We 
> can do a brief agenda review but I hope we can spend most of the meeting 
> on substantive work and not setting the agenda.
>
> 2 - Let's roll over AI status as the first item each week. Once they are 
> done, you can put a brief note in the minutes saying done and adding a 
> link as needed. If they are still open they go on the open AI list until 
> t hey are closed one way or another.
>
> I have one big one for next weeks agenda:
> Backward compatibility of activities.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg S
>
> ******************
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:35:49 -0400
> From: Chris Ball <cjb at laptop.org>
> Subject: Re: Reminder: Tuesday Release & Wednesday Software Meetings
> 	-- 2:00	PM EDT, #olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.org
> To: Michael Stone <michael at laptop.org>
> Cc: devel at lists.laptop.org
> Message-ID: <86tzf0419m.fsf at pullcord.laptop.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi,
>
>     > We'd like to try out using Gobby to record the agenda and minutes
>     > for Tuesday's release meeting.  If you have an XO and will be
>     > joining the meeting, please run "yum install gobby" beforehand, or
>     > "apt-get install gobby" on an Ubuntu laptop.  The server will be at
>     > pullcord.laptop.org.
>
> And here are our minutes and action items:
>
> Attendance:
>
>     cjb cscott erikg dsd pgf dsaxena tomeu ypod dgilmore bemasc bert
>     Charlie (Celkan) Kim mstone Gregorio unmadindu walter martin_xsa
>     eben
>
>
> Minutes:
>
> * Ypod mentioned that it's hard to get the hang of Koji.  We agreed,
>    and offered to sit down with him to explain.  Cjb asserted that a
>    package being outside of Koji should not impede that package making
>    it into a build for testing via the dropbox system.
>
>    AI: cjb and mstone to meet with ypod.
>
>
> * Trac process: In response to ticket workflow questions (specifically:
>    when should tickets get closed), Michael suggested the following
>    process through Trac "next action" states:
>
>      code -> package -> add to build -> developer test in build
>
>    After testing, the developer tags the bug with the results, e.g.:
>      joyride-2126:-    or   joyride-2126:+
>
>    if +, the developer moves the ticket's "next action" to "finalize"
>    QA will then close the ticket at some later stage, perhaps after
>    making relevant additions to the release notes.
>
>    AI: Joe will call a Trac meeting to discuss this later this week.
>
>
> * The changelog tools we have aren't very good.  We should improve them.
>
>    AI: Chris, Michael and Dennis to meet to work on changelog tools.
>
>
> * Which build should be used for testing?  Joyride-2128 -- earlier
>    builds lost olpc-netlog, which is required for testing.
>
>
> * Metrics for "release readiness".  cscott sent mail to devel recapping
>    the "state of the update.1" email
>
>    AI: Chris to help with finding a metric we can use to define
>        release-readiness, such as (but better than) number of
>        blocker bugs open.
>
>
> * Better user feedback from the field?  David Cavallo wants to talk
>    to us about what the learning team is up to later this week.
>
>   

Hi,

This feedback will be *very* important. Thus far, majority of the focus 
has been on the development perspective (bugs, code, patches, etc) but 
not as much on the use perspective. Use perspective typically involves 
Usability (UI centric), Productivity (task centric) and Satisfaction 
(user centric) models. In most enterprise environments one can float a 
survey instrument with Likert scales to gather quantitative data for 
analysis, but in our case, we cannot expect 5 year olds to answer on a 
scale of 1 to 7. So, the methodologies will have to be more qualitative 
and interview driven.

Additionally, if we can come up with a consistent methodology (or a 
combination of methodologies) for gathering such feedback, we will have 
strong referential basis for comparing implementations across different 
countries.

Sameer

-- 
Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Information Systems
San Francisco State University
San Francisco CA 94132 USA
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
http://opensource.sfsu.edu/


> * Greg brought up there not being a release contract for touchpad
>    improvements.  The touchpad driver change is now present in latest
>    joyrides; needs testing.
>
>
> * Status of 8.2.0.
>
>    AI: Michael to send out 8.2.0 status e-mail by Friday.  Should
>        identify a "test candidate" and maybe a short explanation of
>        what to expect from it.
>
>    AI: Joe to test joyride-2128, report back.
>
>
> * How will we write release notes for 8.2?  Mstone, Greg, Kim and Jim
>    will do so together here:
>    http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_8.2.0_Software_Release_Notes
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Chris.
> -- Chris Ball <cjb at laptop.org>
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