(another) WebKit port of Browse
cafl at msbit.com
Mon Jul 7 19:06:51 EDT 2008
The UI seems pretty important to me, but obviously that's a matter of
taste. Not everyone likes tabbed browsing. Correct operation of websites
that fail with the extant browser. Direct availability of plugins and
addons. One example: scrapbook, a superb research tool. Another example
Google Gears (according to a recent mail being ported, presumably because
the browser is not standard). I am not familiar with the Firefox codebase,
and perhaps all these things are directly available so long as the Firefox 3
engine is there, but if so, there desperately needs to be a detailed body of
documentation telling how to access these capabilities.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Bobby Powers <bobbypowers at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/7/7 Carol Lerche <cafl at msbit.com>:
> > Client certs can be used for authentication with no changes to a Firefox
> > browser or an Apache server. GTK based as well as web based software to
> > create certs also already exists. What sort of patch are you looking
> > I could certainly provide a page running in an apache server to validate
> > request for and implant a client cert in a Firefox browser. The issue
> > certificate creation needs a little more discussion, not because it is
> > difficult or requires a lot of new software to execute, but because it is
> > important to be clear about the requirements. When you describe the
> > overhead, do you mean the overhead of creating the certs? Examining them
> > when someone first logs on?
> > I raised this alternative because you said that a bespoke browser was a
> > requirement to have automatic authentication with the school server. To
> > the benefits of running a standard browser are so substantial that this
> > trade off should be considered.
> Can you explain these benefits? Both Gecko and WebKit are standard
> browser engines. I don't see much to be gained from a UI perspective
> (which presumably is what you're taking about?) by switching to FF3.
> Performance is the only compelling reason I see.
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Martin Langhoff <
> martin.langhoff at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Carol Lerche <cafl at msbit.com> wrote:
> >> > Why does automatic authentication require a custom browser? Client
> >> > certificates work well for this function in ordinary web applications
> >> > (assuming a properly configured server).
> >> I haven't delved into this deeply yet, but I suspect that, while I am
> >> fond of client certs, they won't work - SSL network and CPU overhead
> >> and sidestepping PKI madness for server certs. More on this when I get
> >> to implement it.
> >> Now, anyone who wants to have a strong say on how I am developing this
> >> is free to start implementing it ahead of me, and showing me some
> >> fantastic patches :-)
> >> cheers,
> >> m
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