3dpong request for hosting

[Walter Bender]

> This might be a worthwhile addition to a future Journal design.

This is exactly the sort of thing the unimplemented bulletin-board
feature (unused key on the upper right of the keyboard) is supposed to
facilitate...

-walter

On Jan 12, 2008 12:14 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <bmschwar at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
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> Samuel Klein wrote:
> > Benjamin M. Schwartz writes:
> >> Samuel Klein wrote:
> >>> Yes, it would help to have distributed network services such as ones
> >>> that let you say "join the next available connect/pong game"
> >> This is easy to implement within the current sharing framework.  It just
> >> requires each game to pair off users as they join the activity.
> >
> > I'm not sure what use case you have in mind.  I'm suggesting a service
> > that does not require you to explicitly join one instance of an
> > activity.  You don't care how many people are playing pong (0 or 10)
> > or the XO-color of the person who started any specific instance of the
> > activity.  You just want to be connected to the next available person
> > who also says they want to be connected that way -- whether that means
> > you hang out broadcasting your availability for a while, or are on a
> > distributed waiting list, or wait while a number of idle players
> > running a shared activity (who haven't said "aggressively pair me for
> > a game" but are perhaps waiting for a specific partner) are invited to
> > play with you.
> >
> > Existing tournament systems provide all of the above.  The GAMBIT
> > group working on a card game system may have specific ideas they've
> > tried to implement.
>
> My point is, instead of thinking "Activity=Game Instance", just think
> "Activity=Tournament Instance".  If there's no one playing Pong on the mesh, you
> can start your own open Pong tournament and hope someone joins.  If there are
> already 10 people associated with a single Pong Activity, that means that that
> Activity contains up to 5 games at the moment.  Everything you've described is
> easily implemented as an Activity.  There is absolutely no need to modify Sugar
> to make it work.
>
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm thinking of the case where there are 5 people connected to a
> >> 3dpong activity.  Two are playing, the rest are watching, waiting to
> >> play the winner.  Some overall score needs to be maintained, saved to
> >> the journal etc.
> >
> > Overall score and persistent rank are metadata that could be stored
> > externally to a specific activity -- it could ask the journal, the
> > activity, the network for different scores and metadata (# of games
> > played/won, parameters of each game and raw score) and could, for
> > instance, calculate a number of different "averages" or lifetime
> > ratings for a given activity.  And I can imagine wanting to have ready
> > access to this information for a few dozen activities without opening
> > up all of the activities individually - speaking to the reuse you're
> > asking for.
>
> This kind of data is precisely what the Journal is for.
>
> It is true that currently, the Journal design does not provide an easy mechanism
> to join an Activity and bring something to the party.  For example, If A and B
> have both been collaborating during school on a Write document, and then they go
> home and continue to work, there does not appear to be an easy way for them to
> re-share the document and merge the changes made off-line.  This might be a
> worthwhile addition to a future Journal design.
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