Journal integration for Scratch

Eben Eliason eben at laptop.org
Thu Dec 18 11:11:03 EST 2008


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:57 AM, John Maloney <jmaloney at media.mit.edu> wrote:
> Hi, Phillip.
>
> Re: Do you plan a journal integration for scratch?
>
> Probably not in the near future. There has been talk about making an
> API for the Journal that looks more like a file system to application
> programs. That might be the easiest way to integrate the Journal into
> Scratch in the long run.
>
> Sugar continues to evolve. Earlier versions still allowed access to
> the file system in a way that made it fairly easy to port applications
> like Scratch. More recently, with the Rainbow security system, it
> became much more difficult to use the file system directly.
>
> I support Scratch on many different platforms. The XO is an important
> one due to the educational mission of OLPC. Still, my time is limited
> and I can only spend so much of it on the XO version of Scratch. Thus,
> I try to steer a middle path -- create a Scratch port for the XO
> without changing too much of the Scratch source code. I am hoping that
> eventually Sugar will make life easier for those porting applications
> from file-based platforms by providing some sort of virtual file
> system API. The Journal and the virtual file system could just be two
> views on the same set of files.
>
> Re:
>> At the moment it is not possible to delete scratch projects easily
>> (just in terminal) and our students have difficulty to understand
>> the file and folder structure in the dialog with the very small font.
>
> Yes, I see the problem. Your solution sounds like it would work, but
> the downside is that browsing for existing Scratch projects would be
> done using the Journal, rather than Scratch's "open" dialog. That
> means the user would not see the project thumbnail and project notes.

I'm not sure this is the downside.  That's one of the benefits.  In
fact, the Journal itself supports thumbnails and a description field,
so a similar experience could be offered there, in a place that's
familiar to those using Sugar.

- Eben


> If project deletion is the only issue, my preference would be to add a
> way to delete projects to the Scratch open and save dialogs. (Although
> I'm not promising to do that immediately, since we're currently
> working on the release of Scratch 1.4.)
>
> Another solution (which could be more near-term) would be to increase
> the font size in the file dialog. Do you think that would help?
>
>        -- John
>
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