Sugar & XFCE

[Sebastian Silva]

Ok, so my point is this:
If this is the quickest / simplest / best way to get a XFCE system as 
tightly integrated to the XO, then this should be in a very visible 
place and spread around. As much as I love sugar, I'd vehemently prefer 
to have XFCE + GNU than Sugar + Windows.

Sebastian

david at lang.hm wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>
>> But now that you mentioned it, bonus points for getting a tightly 
>> integrated Debian based XFCE4 (with as little trouble as possible). 
>> Only thing I dont like about this is losing the native and standard 
>> sugar... but oh well its just to compare and make adults feel more at 
>> home.
>
> take a look at the debxo scripts. they use a config file to define 
> what packages are installed in the build, and the project is 
> maintaining configs for XFCE, KDE, GNOME, and Sugar.
>
> I haven't had a chance to try the 0.4 build, but the 0.3 build was 
> very close to working (it didn't have the key mappings needed, but 
> that's one of the things they worked on for the 0.4 release)
>
> David Lang
>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> david at lang.hm wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a delicate scenario that I see:
>>>> Inevitably, when comparing the XOs running Sugar to those running
>>>> Windows for evaluation (this is happening *right now*) - MMSs (that
>>>> is, Microsoft&Ministries) will argue not only on GNU+Linux vs. Windows
>>>> technical merits, but also the GUI will come up as a possible fatal
>>>> comparison.
>>>> So techies will then install XFCE for comparison, perhaps they'll
>>>> request F10 for that...
>>>> Only XFCE is currently vanilla on the repositories and fancy
>>>> integration like volume and brightness, DPI, etc isnt well integrated
>>>> at all by default, as well as many useful separate widgets for
>>>> networking, battery status and so on.
>>>> Its funny: In this scenario, you can actually share more on windows
>>>> (via file sharing) than on linux (at least with the gui).
>>>> So here's an idea Homunq gave us yesterday:
>>>> This is the perfect project for a G1G1 hacker. Probably one already
>>>> did it. Lets challenge them, via OLPCNews, to release "pimp up xfce on
>>>> F9" procedures (maybe even scripts and themepacks) - so that it is as
>>>> simple and as trouble free to install a working, beautiful, lean and
>>>> mean XFCE4 on the NAND that we can proudly compare with sluggish
>>>> windows on the SD.
>>>> Please could we request this to wayan and spread it?
>>>
>>> the biggest problem has been in getting started (getting a system 
>>> image that could boot and use the normal distro tools)
>>>
>>> debxo is a good example of a bootstrap for debian, it is a set of 
>>> scripts that use the standard distro package tools to create a 
>>> system image that they can boot into and start tweaking. what it's 
>>> missing is a good way to let the users extract the results of their 
>>> tweaks to submit upstream.
>>>
>>> if you want the type of work you are looking for to happen on Fedora 
>>> someone needs to package up a similar set of scripts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2008/12/5 Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com>:
>>>>> Carlos wrote (regarding Sugar on an XO):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apps need to be sugarized.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is true when Sugar is the primary interface of the target user
>>>>> population.  But the "Subject" of this topic is XFCE.  I am going to
>>>>> make the assumption that an user sophisticated enough to use XFCE
>>>>> will be sophisticated enough not to need the simplified GUI that
>>>>> sugarization provides.
>>>>>
>>>>> I myself have had reasonable success installing Linux applications
>>>>> on my XO, then launching them from the command line.  [And launching
>>>>> from Terminal bypasses Rainbow's restrictions on applications.]
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep wondering, considering Moore's Law and the availability of
>>>>> netbooks, why shoehorn specifically Sugar (and the XO) into
>>>>> competing for the "traditional_Linux_interface" laptop role ?
>>>>>
>>>>> mikus
>>>>>
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