CSound server questions

John Maloney jmaloney at media.mit.edu
Fri Aug 29 17:10:46 EDT 2008


Thanks, Jim and Victor.

Jim, your explanation makes sense. Good to know what the future  
direction is for OLPC and CSound.

If I have questions about making Scratch use CSound, who is the best  
person to ask?

	-- John

On Aug 28, 2008, at 12:31 PM, victor wrote:

> I'd just like to correct, for the record, that the Csound 5
> project leader, of which I am part,  is and has always been
> John ffitch. I am the fedora package maintainer for the
> olpcsound subset (and I'lll probably pick up the full Csound5
> package too). John has also done a substantial work in
> setting up the subset build.
>
> We would welcome, very much, Barry's input in
> Csound 5 development, if he'd like to be involved.
>
> Victor
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gettys" <jg at laptop.org>
> To: "John Maloney" <jmaloney at media.mit.edu>
> Cc: <Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie>; <devel at lists.laptop.org>; "Chris  
> Ball" <cjb at laptop.org>; "C. Scott Ananian" <cscott at cscott.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: CSound server questions
>
>
>> John,
>>
>> We cannot use code from Barry since he tends to work by himself, his
>> code is unmaintainable except by him and its licensing has also been
>> somewhat questionable at times, though the licening problems may have
>> been addressed..  Were he to be run over by a truck (God forbid!),  
>> we'd
>> be in a complete pickle.
>>
>> The community CSound, that Victor leads, is widely used and  
>> supported by
>> a large community of people.
>>
>> Previous objections of "CSound bloat" (by things like the public  
>> csound
>> using the TK/TCL internally to the CSound library) have been  
>> addressed
>> by Victor, who now has (at configure time) a version of CSound5 built
>> out of the same source pool that drops those dependencies.
>>
>> You can be sure that *anything* that runs on the CSound lite we run  
>> on
>> OLPC will run on the public full CSound used in the music  
>> community; it
>> is an *exact* subset of the full CSound used by everyone except  
>> Barry.
>>
>> So we are also in a very much better compatibility situation than  
>> using
>> Barry's version.
>>
>> Hope this explanation helps.
>>                        - Jim
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 06:42 -0400, John Maloney wrote:
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> I had the impression that Barry Vercoe was working on a new, light-
>>> weight CsoundServer. Is that not true?
>>>
>>> -- John
>>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie wrote:
>>> > There is no CsoundServer anymore; we use Csound as a library
>>> > through its API. If anyone wants some help on how to use it, to
>>> > play MIDI or anything else, he/she can talk to me, privately or
>>> > on this list. I'm away to ICMC at the moment, so replies might
>>> > be slow. But I'll give as much help as I can.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Victor
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Chris Ball <cjb at laptop.org>
>>> > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:35 pm
>>> > Subject: Re: CSound server questions
>>> > To: "C. Scott Ananian" <cscott at cscott.net>
>>> > Cc: John Maloney <jmaloney at media.mit.edu>, devel at lists.laptop.org
>>> >
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > >    > Did you ever get a satisfactory answer to your
>>> > > questions?  I think
>>> > >    > Pippy contains the best examples of using csound
>>> > > to play sounds --
>>> > >    > is that right, Chris?
>>> > >
>>> > > Well, I'd say that TamTam does.  :)  But yes, Pippy
>>> > > does some basic
>>> > > synthesis using sinewaves and music files with csound.
>>> > >
>>> > > - Chris.
>>> > > --
>>> > > Chris Ball   <cjb at laptop.org>
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