CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

[George Hunt]

Martin, thanks for your thoughtful responses. I have a lot of reading to do
to get up to speed on WebDAV, server discovery, jabber, etc.

>There are so many portable ways of doing things that it's not worth
>spending 5 miuntes in thinking about unportable solutions.

I'm not sure I agree that a SMB solution is not worth 5 minutes, given the
ubiquity of MS devices. But until I go down the WebDAV path for a while I
wont really be able to offer an educated opinion.  How much work is it to
set up personal IIS on windows machines? or the equivalent on osX? I'd like
to try it and see how it feels.

I think the interface should just work, without installing anything. But I
realize this is a touchy subject. I'm willing to go along with the general
thinking on the issue.

Is there anyone currently working on a WebDAV client for the XO?  Please
contact me if anyone would like to collaborate on one.

George

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Martin Langhoff
<martin.langhoff at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:37 PM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I've been wanting to create an Activity that would add value and bridge
> the
> > MS-linux gap. I discovered that pyNeighborhood is open sourced, written
> in
> > python, uses gtk, runs on the XO, discovers a diverse MS  network, and in
> my
> > opinion has an acceptable UI.
>
> Just avoid making a bridge for that specific gap. :-) If you focus on
> making something that also happens to work on Windows, then it will
> work if the other machine is running windows, linux, or osx.
>
> There are so many portable ways of doing things that it's not worth
> spending 5 miuntes in thinking about unportable solutions. Specially
> when we're wanting to reach high.
>
> > WebDav is new to me, and interesting. I'm thinking of the kids in city
> > schools, where a parent has a desktop machine that is not an XO, and
> printer
>
> I rewrote that slightly :-)  - also, schools might have conventional
> network printers.
>
> Printing will probably be handled via cups. We are missing a lot of
> infrastructure there (automagic configuration, quota mgmt, some admin
> tools, ui), and it does make sense to start building it. Just not
> using platform-specific tools - cups can take care of interoperating.
>
> WebDAV is very interoperable. Windows will happily be a client, or a
> server for it.
>
> >. Is it your idea that
> > WebDAV client would exist on the XO and the parent would download a
> WebDAV
> > server, and install it on his/her XP machine?
>
> If the 'home computer' is MSWindows-based, I suspect that the IIS
> version that is published rebranded as "PersonalWebServer" by MS
> includes an easy to use WebDAV server. Might need a bit of packaging
> and prettyfying. Apache2 can also run on Win32 platforms.
>
> If the machine is OSX or the many linuxen that are entering the home
> as 'media centers' or just "daddy's machine", they can be WebDAV
> servers easily too, running Apache.
>
> > Is there someone with WebDAV experience and enthusiasm who I could
> > correspond with?
>
> Lots! WebDAV is implemented very widely - google about, and you'll
> find tons.  I've grafted a WebDAV server into Moodle not long ago.
>
> cheers,
>
>
>
> m
> --
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>  martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect
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>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first
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