Fedora User Certificates
Dennis Gilmore
dennis at ausil.us
Fri Aug 22 18:02:41 EDT 2008
On Friday 22 August 2008 04:30:09 pm John Gilmore wrote:
> Isn't it interesting how we have all this public-key infrastructure
> to secure all these key projects -- but every few years we throw it all
> out the window and start over -- based on insecure email messages!
>
> > However if you don't replace the certs you will not have access to
> > cvs or the buildsystem. they are using only the new certs and
> > checking the crl.
>
> This sounds even fishier to me.
>
> Let's suppose the servers were broken into and severely compromised. (*)
> What could the miscreants have done that would invalidate every
> end-user's existing client certificate?
nothing. It has been in the pipeline for a while to be replaced. As it
was say you lost your cert. which what we issued was a key and a signed
certificate. we had no way to revoke that certificate. we took the downtime to
implement the changes as a precautionary measure and to enable things to be
easier in the future. in the past we had a user paste his cert and key
publicly. we ended up changing his username to ensure no one used the
certificate/key to do something bad. this was a big gap in the way things were
setup initially.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-
March/msg00155.html lists the plans to replace it it had been brought up a
few times before that also. but that's when we formally started working on
getting it replaced.
> There was no break-in to the clients. Why should the clients need to
> replace anything? Has the server lost its ability to validate the
> signature on the client certs?
>
> There may be large amounts of hassle coming for every Fedora end-user
> who wants to be able to download only signed packages (if, out of what
> they describe as an abundance of caution, Fedora changes the signing
> key for the whole distro). But why also make unnecessary(**) hassle
> for every Fedora developer?
because of bad design decisions way back when all user certs were issues with
a serial of 00. while the changes are slim to remote rather than assume no
one has certs with higher serial numbers. we made sure that certificates are
accounted for.
Dennis
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