Another sugar rant (was: x2o physics problem solving game)

Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com
Wed Aug 6 02:15:32 EDT 2008


On 8/6/08, Neil Graham <lerc at screamingduck.com> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote:
> > I'm announcing x2o's first tentative release! x2o is a physics problem
> > solving game in which you create Rube Goldberg contraptions in order to
> get
> > the O to land on top of the X. Check it out at
> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o, give it a try, write some levels, and let
> me
> > know how it goes. There are a lot of planned improvements on the way, but
> I
> > would love some feedback.
>
> I have been playing a lot of http://fantasticcontraption.com/ lately so
> this
> is something I'm quite keen on.
>
> Some things...    [rant prep.]
>
> Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it.  It's Called X2o!
> it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake!  Somebody
> either
> fix the search or just change the search box to go to google.
>
> With regards to using activities on the XO I've tried to be accepting of
> the
> sugar interface style, but this activity crystallizes things for me.  I'm
> now
> prepared to move to the sugar-sucks camp.  I've used many and written a few
> physics toy programs. I've had a fair experience with a variety of ways to
> do
> this kind of thing.  X2o is the most cubersome that I have encountered.
>
> I'd like to be clear that I don't think there is anything done poorly in
> the
> X2o activity itself.  I think it all comes from having the sugar interface.
> The more I encounter sugar interfaced programs, the more I think Activities
> would be better off with just about anything else.
>
> I gave myself a long time to acclimatise, much longer than I would have for
> anything else, because the XO is really quite important.  I really believe
> in
> the goals of the OLPC project, but I cant use the XO effectively! My
> daughter
> can't use the XO effectively!
>
> At what point does a do-over make more sense?  I was prepared to take the
> resource usage and the slow bits and the joke that is the journal because
> they were all things that future work would have addressed.   The
> cumbersome
> user interface is a killer though because it's designed to be like that.
>
> When I got my XO it was as an XO, not as a cheapie laptop.  I wanted to
> support the platform.  A big part of that for me was dogfooding, but it has
> bought me nothing but frustration.
>
> There are some good things there.  The activity security and the
> collaboration
> support are good ideas,  I can't help feeling that those bits should be
> kept
> and the rest done from scratch.
>
> Sorry if this post irritates some of you.  I'm not usually a mailing list
> ranter, but the olpc project is something that I think is really quite
> important for the world.
>
Neil,

I love a good rant just like the next guy but you don't mention any
specifics about which aspects of Sugar bother you so much.

If anyone were to go ahead with that do-over you're suggesting, what should
be changed?

Thanks,
Christoph

-- 
Christoph Derndorfer
co-editor, olpcnews
url: www.olpcnews.com
e-mail: christoph at olpcnews.com
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