Journal Suggestions

Benjamin M. Schwartz bmschwar at fas.harvard.edu
Tue Apr 29 23:39:09 EDT 2008


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Eben Eliason wrote:
| In other words, the Journal and the interactions with it are so tied
| to the system already, that one would still have to manually copy
| pretty much anything one wants onto the SD card or external device
| anyway.  The only difference would be in whether or not the copied
| files get indexed, with metadata, similar to the way the Journal
| entries do; it can never serve as a "replacement" for the Journal, or
| as an "extension" of it, which seems to remove most of the benefits
| that it could otherwise offer.  Perhaps you could instead "register"
| an SD card *as* the Journal, so that in the future the Journal
| activity ignores NAND and instead operates only on the registered
| device instead. This doesn't really extend the memory...it simply
| swaps it out (for something with, presumably, much more), which is
| still not that great.

To me, this issue seems almost indistinguishable from the school-server
Journal integration problem.  In both cases, we have a storage device
other than the NAND, providing a great deal of space (potentially larger
than the NAND) but whose presence is not entirely dependable.  The
comparison is particularly apt if we imagine a scenario in which there are
multiple backup servers, some trusted and some not, as suggested in
Bitfrost.  The role of a specific SD card could then be as (1) Trusted
Journal storage, (2) Untrusted Journal storage, or (3) Non-Journal
storage.  The mechanisms required for handling removable media, USB hard
drives, and networked storage, are all essentially the same.

- --Ben
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