DejaVu fonts (Was: Ethiopean)

linaccess at linaccess at
Wed Aug 22 07:08:32 EDT 2007

Hello Bernardo, All,

I wonder about shipping DejaVuLGC, too. I ask the same questions a few weeks ago on #olpc / #sugar but didn't get an answer. Ok, it is irc and not a mailinglist. Thanks for posting it here.
IMHO we should try to switch from DejaVuLGC to DejaVu. Frontiers are not perforce language borders. So it would be fine to have as much fonts on the XO as posible. There is always the chance to switch back. Besides we have less packages and maybe more space for free.


On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:01:17 -0400
Bernardo Innocenti <bernie at> wrote:

> (I'm moving to devel@ so we don't need to Cc too many people)
> Bernardo Innocenti wrote:
> > Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
> > > I cannot tell you which font was used by my Ubuntu - I just see those
> > > glyphs rendered more of less correctly (see attached). If you're
> > > interested, I can provide you with the list of fonts I have installed.
> >
> > I see them just fine in Firefox on my F7 development machine, but not on
> > the laptop.  Weird...
> It turns out that the DejaVu font has the Ethiopian glyphs, but
> there's also a simplified font called DejaVuLGC which is what
> we're shipping on the OLPC.
> I just talked with Walter and J5 and we agreed that it makes no sense
> to ship a huge font with all glyphs when we're already going to have
> a custom images for each country where we can easily add language
> specific fonts.
> But now I looked at DejaVu to see how bigger it is and it seems to
> me that it's not worth it after all:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 448K 2007-08-11 07:42 DejaVuLGCSans.ttf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 557K 2007-08-11 07:42 DejaVuSans.ttf
> The RPMs for the complete DejaVu font are even *smaller*:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.0M 2007-08-11 07:43 dejavu-fonts-2.19-1.fc8.noarch.rpm
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.3M 2007-08-11 07:42 dejavu-lgc-fonts-2.19-1.noarch.rpm
> (but that's because DejaVuLGC also comes with Condensed variants).
> So, is there another reason why we couldn't just switch to it?
> Currently, we're shipping arabic and thai fonts in all builds.
> If the DejaVu support for these languages is good enough, we
> could save even more space.
> -- 
>    // Bernardo Innocenti
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