#11268 NORM 1.75-so: XO-1.75 os6 yum install fails

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#11268: XO-1.75 os6 yum install fails
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           Reporter:  Quozl   |       Owner:  pbrobinson                       
               Type:  defect  |      Status:  new                              
           Priority:  normal  |   Milestone:  1.75-software                    
          Component:  distro  |     Version:  Development build as of this date
         Resolution:          |    Keywords:                                   
        Next_action:  review  |    Verified:  0                                
Deployment_affected:          |   Blockedby:                                   
           Blocking:          |  
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Comment(by Quozl):

 Replying to [comment:7 pbrobinson]:
 > Please, facts only:

 Please, my observations are based on reading devel@ mailing list and
 #olpc-devel IRC traffic, if my observations are in error, that's not only
 my fault.  Other people seem to be sharing the same observations as I am,
 and tickets or complaints keep appearing, so I guess they just aren't as
 brave or foolish to bring them up in detail.

 > >  * we use the Fedora distribution and infrastructure, including
 package building, repository construction, and hosting, so anytime they
 have a hiccup in those, we stall, either in our own builds or our own use
 of yum,
 >
 > How would that be any different with any other distro.

 Other distributions are not relevant, sorry.  I was stating supporting
 facts as I understood them, explaining things that are probably obvious to
 you, while replying to Paul.

 > There has been no security compromise of Fedora infrastructure. The
 issue is with kernel.org and has been widely publicised.

 I must have missed it by being too busy to be widely read.  Was it on
 devel@?  Something like "there is a problem with kernel.org [1] which will
 cause yum [2] on our builds to fail [3].  don't bother reporting that,
 just try again, or use this workaround [4]."

 > >  * the yum command or repo configuration in our builds is delicate and
 sensitive to occasional outages, with no clear advice given by yum to the
 user on how to compensate,
 >
 > The repo configuration in out builds is the same as for upstream Fedora.
 The issue is with the distinct lack of mirrors for the secondary arches.

 Your response to this point doesn't address the lack of advice given by
 yum, or the apparent delicacy of the configuration.  Can you suggest any
 alternatives?  I presume Fedora on i386 doesn't suffer from the same
 instability.

 > >  * there is no GUI provided as there is in Ubuntu, (synaptic),
 >
 > There is a GUI. Its part of the gnome-packagekit package and you can run
 it from a command line with gpk-application. Its not included in the XO
 builds, I suggest if you want it to open a ticket and request it.

 I don't want it, unless it is the only practical way to solve the
 difficulty of getting a package installed for one of our community
 volunteers who find editing system files a challenge.

 > gnome-packagekit does that. The exact binary is gpk-prefs

 Thanks.

 > The GUI components should have a ticket filed and a decision made rather
 than bringing it up in a completely unrelated ticket.

 It is relevant as a potential workaround, nothing more.  I'm not calling
 for a decision to include them unless they are the only solution to the
 instability of yum.

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