#4805 BLOC Update.: OLPC laptops interfering with other 802.11b/g traffic
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#4805: OLPC laptops interfering with other 802.11b/g traffic
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Reporter: kimquirk | Owner: mbletsas
Type: defect | Status: new
Priority: blocker | Milestone: Update.1
Component: wireless | Version:
Resolution: | Keywords:
Verified: 0 |
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Comment(by satch89450):
Hello, my name is Stephen Satchell. I'm the network guy at the THINK
conference (previously known as the Hacker's Conference as organized by a
group of people on The WELL). My responsibility is to oversee our
conference demonstration rooms and to oversee the Internet connection we
use at the conference, I believe the people who brought the little green
laptops are already providing information, so this many be redundant.
However, as we say here in Reno, Nevada, a triple check beats a double
cross.
Background: the conference site has a network of four access points within
the building in question. I don't have a lot of details about those access
points, because another gentleman is the Wireless Czar for the
conference...but I do know that the conference site's access points are
set up to permit handoff fairly well -- if you want to pay the price to
the hotel. The THINK network -- the official one -- also has four access
points. Three of them have the same SSID, while one of them has a
different one. The channel assignments were selected to minimize conflict
with with Chaminade network. I counted two rogue access points (set up by
conferees outside the "official network"). Then there was third rogue
network with the name "mesh" in it...
I can relate my own experience with the problem, because my personal
experience is what led us (me, and the OLPC laptop owners) initially to
suspect that there was an interference problem. I have a Sony VIO running
Windows XP (stop booing and hissing, I'm fixing that problem) that has
built-in 802.11b wireless. I used this laptop on the NOC table to debug
things on my network, both wired and wireless. Also on the NOC table was
one of the official access points, with the THINK ssid. I could not
connect to it. The OLPC units were across the hallway in the other demo
room -- air distance of about 12 feet.
When all of the OLPC units were shut off, I was able to get an "excellent"
connection (as reported by the VIO wireless software) with the access
point six inches away. With the OLPC units open and turned on, I couldn't
even access the wireless network.
People in the main conference room didn't have problems with OLPC
interference (with SSID "hackers-m") until the units were brought in and
passed around the room.
I understand from one of the two owners that two of the units did *not*
have the most up-to-date software on it, so this could have been a problem
that has already been fixed. (The irony is that this gentleman was trying
to download the lastest version, but his laptop -- an Apple one, if memory
serves -- was unable to complete the download. Catch-22!) Also, when the
laptops had their networking disabled as claimed by the owner, the problem
appeared to go away as well.
One side issue: the "network off" mode wasn't sticky. When the units
reportedly turned off and then back on, the nework would come back up and
not stay in the disabled condition.
The workaround I did was to go into my heap of stuff and yank out a couple
of 24-port Ethernet switches with 100-base T ports, expand the wired
network at the laptop tables, and extend wired Ethernet to a lounge area
where laptop users like to congregate. This reduced the load on the
wireless network.
I don't recall if the software was updated during the conference, or
tested. As it was, I got five hours of sleep during 72 hours, so I wasn't
as sharp as I would have liked to be. Also the OLPCs were not mine.
(Should I fix that last? Hmmm...)
If you have questions, you can send them to satch at internetworkexpert.com
and I will do my best to answer them. I would prefer you use my work
address, as *everything* I had at the conference is currently at the
office, including my contact lists.
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