Não Gostei...Tenho os Dois, e prefiro XO. Creio que o Classmate não é um projeto educacional<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">Em 19/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:brasil-request@lists.laptop.org">brasil-request@lists.laptop.org
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<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:25:06 -0200<br>From: "Jaime Balbino" <<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OLPC Brasil] andamento da licita??o<br>To: " Jos? Antonio " <
<a href="mailto:joseantoniorocha@gmail.com">joseantoniorocha@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: OLPC Brasil <<a href="mailto:Brasil@laptop.org">Brasil@laptop.org</a>><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:66d1f500712190725l296d6f4elcee9a9a40fc088ba@mail.gmail.com">
66d1f500712190725l296d6f4elcee9a9a40fc088ba@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Hummm... Estou aqui pensando...<br><br>O Classmate n?o tem mesmo rede Mesh, c?mera, microfone, especifica??es
<br>de tela...<br><br>Al?m disso ele ? usa um Celeron adaptado para trabalhar com<br>dispositivos m?veis, o consumo neste caso ? alto. O seu primo mais<br>novo, o Eee da Asus, tem uma dura??o da bateria muito aqu?m do<br>
esperado (menos de 2 horas). O edital exige ao menos 3 horas de carga.<br><br>N?o sei quais ser?o os procedimentos do leil?o daqui para a frente.<br>Provavelmente s? a Positivo poder? fazer ofertas agora, se ela n?o<br>cobrir o "pre?o de refer?ncia" n?o sei se dar?o oportunidade aos
<br>demais concorrentes. Pode ser que simplesmente aceitem a melhor<br>proposta da Positivo ou cancelem/suspendam o leil?o alegando falta de<br>verba.<br><br>Se ganhar, a Positivo ter? que enviar m?quinas e softwares para
<br>an?lise em 48 horas (ou at? depois do natal). Caso n?o cumpra as<br>exig?ncias teremos um embr?lio para resolver, porque todos os demais<br>concorrentes poder?o recorrer alegando alguma coisa.<br><br>Espero sinceramente que os procedimentos prevejam mais uma chance
<br>ainda hoje para os demais concorrentes. Assim a SIMM/OLPC poderia<br>fazer uma oferta digna e ousada.<br><br>Um abra?o,<br>Jaime.<br><br><br>Em 19/12/07, Jos? Antonio<<a href="mailto:joseantoniorocha@gmail.com">joseantoniorocha@gmail.com
</a>> escreveu:<br>> Hum... agora v?m os testes de ader?ncia ?s especifica??es. Vamos ver.<br>><br>> On Dec 19, 2007 12:41 PM, Alexandre Van de Sande<br>> <<a href="mailto:alexandrevandesande@gmail.com">
alexandrevandesande@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<br>> > ent?o a positivo inform?tica tem um laptop que faz mesh networking, tem<br>> camera, microfone e que atende as exigencias de tela e resistencia do<br>> edital?
<br>><br>><br>> --<br>> nome: "Jos? Antonio Meira da Rocha" tratamento: "Prof. MS."<br>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em m?dias digitais"<br>> googletalk: email: MSN:
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http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/brasil</a><br>><br>><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:38:45 -0200<br>From: "Jaime Balbino" <<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">
jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OLPC Brasil] {Disarmed} Re: andamento da licita??o<br>To: "OLPC Brasil" <<a href="mailto:brasil@laptop.org">brasil@laptop.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:66d1f500712190738he08e2f9ubb62bea618dd10d@mail.gmail.com">
66d1f500712190738he08e2f9ubb62bea618dd10d@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>No come?o evitei afirmar que seria o Classmate o micro da Positivo,<br>apesar das promessas j? feitas de parceria com a Intel. No entanto,
<br>fazendo outras buscas r?pidas, n?o encontrei nada que indicasse que a<br>Positivo ou a CCE estivessem trabalhando com outro equipamento.<br><br>Ao darem suas ofertas a Positivo e a CEE tiveram a oportunidade de<br>dizer a marca e modelo do equipamento ofertado, mas n?o disseram nada
<br>de significativo.<br><br>A OLPC fechou com a SIMM de Campinas. Por enquanto n?o d? para<br>acreditar que outro concorrente esteja tamb?m trabalhando com a OLPC.<br><br>Pode ser que a Positivo tenha conseguido fechar com, por exemplo, a
<br>Asus e seu Eee. Mas n?o encontrei nada que corrobore isso.<br><br>Ficamos todos com o mais prov?vel. Mas ? claro que todos podemos estar<br>redondamente enganados. O Prof. Shara disse que o Classmate tem rede<br>Mesh. Ser? que poderia dar mais detalhes? Achei que a Intel fosse dar
<br>prefer?ncia irrestrita a suas patentes.<br><br>Outra coisa professor. Por acaso saberia o senhor sabe mais alguma<br>coisa sobre a Positivo (ou CCE) para ajudar a fermentar mais nossas<br>"viagens"?<br><br>Um abra?o,
<br>Jaime.<br><br>Em 19/12/07, Paulo Drummond<<a href="mailto:ptdrumm@terra.com.br">ptdrumm@terra.com.br</a>> escreveu:<br>> Caro Schara,<br>><br>> N?o acredito que se esteja assumindo tal a "ferro e fogo", por enquanto.
<br>> Creio at? que o Jaime esteja inferindo, da memsma forma que eu (e outros<br>> tamb?m) com base nas not?cias que ? at? agora ? t?m sido veiculadas. Mas...<br>> c? entre n?s, por que seria outro?<br>><br>> ? paulo
<br>><br>><br>> On Dec 19, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Luiz Magalhaes wrote:<br>><br>> Voc?s n?o podem assumir que a positivo vai vender o classmate.<br>><br>> --schara<br>><br>> PS. Mas o classmate tem mesh.
<br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: Alexandre Van de Sande<br>> To: Paulo Drummond<br>> Cc: OLPC Brasil<br>> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:41 PM<br>> Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [OLPC Brasil] andamento da licita??o
<br>><br>> ent?o a positivo inform?tica tem um laptop que faz mesh networking, tem<br>> camera, microfone e que atende as exigencias de tela e resistencia do<br>> edital?<br>><br>><br>> On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 PM, Paulo Drummond <
<a href="mailto:ptdrumm@terra.com.br">ptdrumm@terra.com.br</a>> wrote:<br>> > Tratamento Diferenciado: -<br>> > Situa??o do Item: Realizar Aceita??o Qtde Aceita:<br>> > 0<br>> ><br>> > CNPJ/CPF Raz?o Social/Nome Porte
<br>> > ME/EPP Declara??o<br>> > ME/EPP Qtde<br>> > Ofertada Melhor Lance<br>> > (R$) Data/Hora<br>> > Melhor Lance Valor Negoc.<br>> > (R$) Situa??o do Lance<br>> >
81.243.735/0001-48 POSITIVO INFORMATICA S/A N?o N?o<br>> 150.000<br>> > 98.180.000,0000 19/12/2007 12:15:31:553<br>> > Marca: Positivo Inform?tica<br>> > Fabricante: POSITIVO INFORM?TICA
S.A.<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: Atende plenamente as especifica??es,<br>> > condi??es e prazos exigidos no edital e anexos.<br>> > 07.130.025/0001-59 DIGIBRAS INDUSTRIA DO BRASIL S/A Sim<br>
> N?o<br>> > 150.000 98.800.000 ,0000 19/12/2007 12:12:55:287<br>> > Marca: CCE - Modelo CM 21<br>> > Fabricante: Digibras<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: Informamos que atendemos todos os requisitos
<br>> > do Edital conforme Item 8 do anexo 1<br>> > 06.964.587/0001-35 SIMM - SOLUCOES INTELIGENTES PARA MERCADO MOVEL<br>> > DO BRAS N?o N?o 150.000 104.595.000,0000<br>> 19/12/2007 11:58:57:583
<br>> > Marca: OLPC XO<br>> > Fabricante: OLPC<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: Computador Laptop Educacional Desenvolvido<br>> > para Utiliza??o por Crian?as<br>> > 01.169.999/0001-60 REIFASA COMERCIAL LTDA Sim N?o
150.000<br>> > 113.999.990,9900 19/12/2007 11:53:41:430<br>> > Marca: CCE<br>> > Fabricante: CCE<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: Atende a todas as especifica??es do edital.<br>> > 54.526.082
/0004-84 ITAUTEC S.A. - GRUPO ITAUTEC N?o N?o<br>> 150.000<br>> > 175.579.460,0000 18/12/2007 15:19:06:850<br>> > Marca: Itautec<br>> > Fabricante: Itautec<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: De acordo com as especifica??es do Edital n?
<br>> > 59/2007 e seus Anexos<br>> > 03.474.553/0001-74 TELIS ELETRONICOS LTDA. N?o N?o<br>> 150.000<br>> > 450.000.000,0000 18/12/2007 14:45:03:380<br>> > Marca: Pacific Network
<br>> > Fabricante: Pacific Network<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: Lap To conforme descri??o do edital.<br>> > 08.762.474/0001-82 AUTOSIS INFORMATICA LTDA EPP Sim Sim<br>> 150.000<br>> >
750.000.000,0000 18/12/2007 14:45:03:397<br>> > Marca: SONY<br>> > Fabricante: SONY<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: ESPECIFICAC?ES EM NOSSA PROPOSTA<br>> > 05.201.844/0001-14 MAIS IMAGEM LOCACOES LTDA EPP Sim Sim
<br>> 150.000<br>> > LimpaMail avisa: links num?ricos tamb?m s?o maliciosos: <a href="http://2.250.000.000">2.250.000.000</a>,0000<br>> 18/12/2007 14:45:03:397<br>> > Marca: acer / sony vaio<br>> > Fabricante: acer / sony vaio
<br>> > Descri??o Complementar: descri??o conforme edital e seus anexos<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>
> ><br>> > > Como voc? sabe que foi da Positivo, Paulo?<br>> > ><br>> > > Em 19/12/07, Paulo Drummond<<a href="mailto:ptdrumm@terra.com.br">ptdrumm@terra.com.br</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>
<br>> > >> On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote:<br>> > >><br>> > >>> A fase de lance est? encerrada. O melhor lance foi de 98,18 milh?es<br>> > >>> de reais.
<br>> > >><br>> > >> Da Positivo (Classmate)<br>> > >><br>> > >>><br>> > >>> O pregoeiro ainda afirma que o valor ? alto, por isso o leil?o<br>> > >>> entrar?
<br>> > >>> em uma nova fase de negocia??o via chat direto com ele.<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Vamos continuar acompanhando.<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> O Alexandre e eu achamos que o "pre?o de refer?ncia" n?o deve ser
<br>> > >>> US$<br>> > >>> 250, mas algo pr?ximo dos US$ 350 para poder incluir os impostos<br>> > >>> e os<br>> > >>> demais compromissos. Se for isso, o ?ltimo valor ofertado n?o estar?
<br>> > >>> longe da meta do governo, que seria de US$ 94,5 milh?es<br>> > >>> aproximadamente.<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Um abra?o,<br>> > >>> Jaime.
<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>> MINIST?RIO DA EDUCA??O<br>> > >>> Fundo Nacional de Desenvolvimento da Educa??o<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Preg?o n? 592007 - Eletr?nico
<br>> > >>> Objeto: Objeto: Preg?o Eletr?nico - Contrata??o de empresa<br>> > >>> especializada para fornecimento de 150.000 equipamentos port?teis<br>> > >>> denominados laptops educacionais, para atendimento de 300 escolas do
<br>> > >>> Piloto do Projeto ?Um Computador por Aluno (UCA), na forma e<br>> > >>> condi??es<br>> > >>> estabelecidas no Edital e seus anexos.<br>> > >>> Data da Realiza??o (in?cio dos lances): 18/12/2007 14:30
<br>> > >>> Data da Abertura da Sess?o: 18/12/2007 14:45<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Para ver as propostas recebidas, clique sobre o n?mero do item.<br>> > >>> Item Descri??o Tratamento
<br>> > >>> Diferenciado Situa??o Melhor Lance<br>> > >>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Realizar<br>> > >>> Aceita??o R$<br>> > >>>
98.180.000,0000<br>> > >>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo I: Participa??o Exclusiva de ME/EPP<br>> > >>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo II: Exig?ncia de subcontrata??o de<br>> > >>> ME/EPP
<br>> > >>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo III: Cota para participa??o exclusiva<br>> > >>> de ME/EPP<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>>
<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>> MINIST?RIO DA EDUCA??O<br>> > >>> Fundo Nacional de Desenvolvimento da Educa??o
<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Preg?o n? 592007 - Eletr?nico<br>> > >>> Objeto: Objeto: Preg?o Eletr?nico - Contrata??o de empresa<br>> > >>> especializada para fornecimento de
150.000 equipamentos port?teis<br>> > >>> denominados laptops educacionais, para atendimento de 300 escolas do<br>> > >>> Piloto do Projeto ?Um Computador por Aluno (UCA), na forma e<br>> > >>> condi??es
<br>> > >>> estabelecidas no Edital e seus anexos.<br>> > >>> Data da Realiza??o (in?cio dos lances): 18/12/2007 14:30<br>> > >>> Data da Abertura da Sess?o: 18/12/2007 14:45<br>
> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Para ver as propostas recebidas, clique sobre o n?mero do item.<br>> > >>> Item Descri??o Tratamento<br>> > >>> Diferenciado Situa??o Melhor Lance
<br>> > >>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Realizar<br>> > >>> Aceita??o R$<br>> > >>> 98.180.000,0000<br>> > >>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo I: Participa??o Exclusiva de ME/EPP
<br>> > >>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo II: Exig?ncia de subcontrata??o de<br>> > >>> ME/EPP<br>> > >>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo III: Cota para participa??o exclusiva<br>> > >>> de ME/EPP
<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> sos do leil?o. Se o valor for esse o ?ltimo valor ofertado n?o est?<br>> > >>> longe do<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<
<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a> > escreveu:<br>> > >>>> Rompemos a barreira dos 100! A melhores ofertas foram 99,736<br>> > >>>> milh?es<br>> > >>>> de reais e de 99,4 milh?es agora.
<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:
<br>> > >>>>> O pregoeiro ame?ou revogar o leil?o se os valores n?o chegarem ao<br>> > >>>>> "pre?o de refer?ncia" que s? ele sabe qual ?.<br>> > >>>>>
<br>> > >>>>> O menor lance at? agora ? 101,5 milh?es de reais.<br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>> E continua caindo...<br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>> Jaime Balbino
<br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>> O pre?o continua caindo com v?rias ofertas, a ?ltima ? de 103,7
<br>> > >>>>>> milh?es ou R$ 691,33. Se o governo tirar os impostos como<br>> > >>>>>> prometeu o<br>> > >>>>>> valor final ficar? abaixo de R$ 350 por m?quina.
<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> Mesmo assim o pregoeiro avisou mais uma vez que os valores est?o<br>> > >>>>>> "muito acima" do esperado e aguarda mais "propostas efetivas".
<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> N?o d? para saber at? onde isso ? verdade ou se ? s? "ca?" do<br>> > >>>>>> preogoeiro.<br>> > >>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>> Um abra?o,<br>> > >>>>>> Jaime.<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">
jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>> Outra oferta de 105,45 milh?es de reais ou R$ 703.<br>> > >>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<
<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>> A estrat?gia parece que funcionou, a melhor oferta agora ?<br>> > >>>>>>>> 107,92
<br>> > >>>>>>>> milh?es de reais.<br>> > >>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< <a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">
jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>> Algu?m ofertou R$ 109,7 milh?es!<br>> > >>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
<br>> > >>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>> A queda livre continua a menos de 1 minuto do encerramento.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>> O melhor<br>> > >>>>>>>>>> valor agora ? R$ 116 milh?es.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>> Um abra?o,
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>> Jaime.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">
jaimebalb@gmail.com</a> > escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>> O melhor lance at? agora ? de 117,8 milh?es. Faltam 7<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>> minutos para o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>> t?rmino do leil?o.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< <a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> As ofertas est?o aparecendo muito r?pido, agora j? estamos
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> em 118,35<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> milh?es. Mas o pregoeiro fala:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (19/12/2007 11:36:54) ? com muita tristeza que
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> informamos que os<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> lances ainda est?o muito acima da expectativa da<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Administra??o e do
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> or?amento previsto para esta aquisi??o, mesmo com a<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> proximidade do<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> per?odo de 'Encerramento Aleat?rio'. Voltamos a lembrar
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> que seremos<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> obrigados a cancelar o certame caso a expectativa<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> or?ament?ria n?o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> seja alcan?ada.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja, o leil?o pode dar em nada!
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> N?o sei se o pregoeiro ir? divulgar o tal "valor de<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> refer?ncia" para
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for?ar um acordo de ?ltima hora.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Um abra?o,
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<
<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Os lances est?o r?pidos, agora ? 118,5. menos 100 mil em<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> rela??o ao anterior.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> N?o d? para saber se ? o mesmo licitante tentando chegar<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ao valor "de
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> refer?ncia" ou se est? havendo disputa.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abra?o,
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<
<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agora o lance ? de 118,6 milh?es. Uma redu??o rid?cula<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> para a proposta
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anterior, mas bem consider?vel para o primeiro melhor<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lance de ontem,<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior aos 140 milh?es de reais.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< <a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mais um lance um pouquinho melhor, de 118,699 milh?es,
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou seja R$ 1,34<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais barato que o anterior por m?quina.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<
<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O melhor valor agora ? 118,7 milh?es de reais ou R$
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 791,33 por m?quina.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E o leil?o est? acabando, pregoeiro fala:
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (19/12/2007 11:19:34) Aten??o! Entramos no per?odo<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 'Imin?ncia de
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Encerramento' no qual os lances podem e devem<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuar a ser
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encaminhados, principalmente em fun??o de que<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuam muito elevados
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em rela??o ao pre?o de refer?ncia da Administra??o.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja os pre?os continuam altos para o pregoeiro,
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mas o leil?o se<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerr? mesmo assim, aleatoriamente, ap?s ?s 11:47h.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o preogeiro tamb?m alega que: "Todavia,<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comunicamos que caso n?o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seja alcan?ada a meta de pre?o pretendida pela<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administra??o, o preg?o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n?o ser? adjudicado."<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja, quem ganhar n?o necessariamente ir? levar.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<
<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rompemos a barreira dos 120. O melhor lance agora ?
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 119,2 milh?es.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">
jaimebalb@gmail.com</a> ><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mais um lance abaixo de 123,5 milh?es de reais ou R$
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 823 por m?quina.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">
jaimebalb@gmail.com</a> ><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Os lances est?o abaixando, j? diminu?ram do entorno
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 127 milh?es de<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais para 124,9 milh?es. Uma redu??o bem
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider?vel.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o pregoeiro continua insistindo que o valor
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> est? alto e pede<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tamb?m que a composi??o de pre?os inclua todos os
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impostos por<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escrito.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N?o d? para saber quem deu o lance ou se todas<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essas redu??es s?o do
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmo concorrente ou ainda se est? havendo uma<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disputa entre dois ou
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais concorrentes.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abra?o,
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/12/07, Jaime Balbino<
<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dei uma olhada agora. O leil?o ficou suspenso ?s
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:00h e ser?<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retomado amanh? cedo (9:30h). O menor valor agora
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? 128,26 milh?es de<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais, quase 20 milh?es de diferen?a para a
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primeira proposta maisd<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baixa.<br>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eu e outros erramos feio ao achar que o pre?o n?o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poderia cair mais.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o pregoeiro ainda afirma que o valor est? bem
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acima do "pre?o de<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refer?ncia", que s? ele sabe qual ?.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abaixo transcrevo as ?ltimas mensagens do
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregoeiro:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "(18/12/2007 18:02:24) Senhores, chegamos ao final
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deste dia sem que<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> houvesse uma redu??o de pre?os realmente
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significativa, sendo que os<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valores cotados permanecem completamente
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaceit?veis.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:03:02) Desta forma, considerando
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que os pre?os cotados<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permanecem MUITO altos em rela??o ao pre?o de
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refer?ncia da<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administra??o, o que impede de entrar no per?odo
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de imin?ncia de<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerramento, suspenderemos o preg?o neste momento
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para avalia??o.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retornaremos amanh?, 19/12/2007, ?s 9:30h, com
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> novas informa??es,<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ficando desde j? todos os licitantes convocados a
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acompanhar.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:04:00) Nesse ?nterim, pedimos o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esfor?o de todos no<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentido de revisar suas planilhas de custos, a fim
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de cotar pre?os<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compat?veis com aquele or?ado pela Administra??o.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:04:22) Obrigado!"<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abra?o,<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/12/07, Jos? Antonio
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < <a href="mailto:joseantoniorocha@gmail.com">joseantoniorocha@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescri??oTratamento<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSitua??oMelhor Lance
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescri??oTratamento<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSitua??oMelhor Lance
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Aberto<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para Lances 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Aberto para Lances R$ 129.700.000,0000<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 5:52 PM, Jos? Antonio
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < <a href="mailto:joseantoniorocha@gmail.com">joseantoniorocha@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pequenos c?lculos com o pre?o atual aqui:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> <a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc">http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc</a>?<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> key=pH0vKjJkMrh3kdYXJ2dlaJA&hl=pt_BR<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 5:50 PM, Jos? Antonio<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
<a href="mailto:joseantoniorocha@gmail.com">joseantoniorocha@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pregoeiro fala:
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 17:41:38) Comunicamos que n?o est?<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sendo levada em considera??o qualquer redu??o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de pre?o com base em conv?nio publicado nesta<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescri??oTratamento
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSitua??oMelhor Lance<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Aberto
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para Lances R$ 140.100.000,0000<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 3:29 PM, Jaime Balbino
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com">jaimebalb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pessoal,
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Estou acompanhando a licita??o de 150 mil
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptops. O processo come?ou<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14:45 (previsto incialmente para 14:30h).
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tivemos 8 propostas, a mais alta foi de mais
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 2 bilh?es de reais<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pelos 150 mil laptops.
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A mais baixa foi de 143 milh?es de reais. N?o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d? para saber quem fez a oferta.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Este valor mais baixo significa 953 reais por<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop. O problema ? que
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o governo quer pagar 300 d?lares por m?quina<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no m?ximo. O que d? hoje
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 840 reais por laptop.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O leiloeiro est? insistindo para que os<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participantes refa?am a
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposta para se chegar a um valor mais<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr?ximo destes US$300 por
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sinceramente acho muito dif?cil o pre?o cair<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais, j? que cada m?quina
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deve pagar todos os impostos normais, incluir<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o software do servidor e
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ainda cada licitante tem que oferecer garantia<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 3 anos para o laptop
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e o software do servidor.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A OLPC, que teria um pre?o bom, custa 342<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais hoje (sem frete),
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somando-se todos os impostos o pre?o tende<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dobrar e cada OLPC sair?
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por 700 reais! Some-se o custo individual da<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garantia de 3 anos, o
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> custo de instala??o do servidor (no caso da<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC o desenvolvimento do
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software j? est? feito) e o risco (que ? alto)<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fica dif?cil oferecer
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um valor razo?vel.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas vamos continuar acompanhando.<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abra?o,<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
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<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em m?dias<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais"
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<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "Jos? Antonio Meira da Rocha" tratamento:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prof. MS."
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em m?dias<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais"
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googletalk: email: MSN:<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "Jos? Antonio Meira da Rocha" tratamento:
<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prof. MS."<br>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em m?dias
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