[OLPC Brasil] andamento da licitação

Paulo Drummond ptdrumm at terra.com.br
Wed Dec 19 09:56:06 EST 2007


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CM = C...sM..e ;-)

On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote:

> Também já tinha procurado sem encontrar nada. Mas conheço a CCE e  
> ela
> tem mania de nomear todos os seus produtos que sao na verdade O&M.
> Assim o CM21 deve ser o Classmate mesmo.
>
> Últimas palavras do preogeiro:
> "Nesse ínterim, pedimos ao licitante que apresentou o melhor lance  
> que
> adote as providências de sua competência que lhe permita revisar os
> seus custos, de forma a ofertar preço compatível com a meta prevista
> pela Administração, pois o valor do último lance não permite a
> Adjudicação. Obrigado!"
>
>
> A Positivo com seu Classmate é até agora a vencedora da  
> licitação para
> compra de 150 mil laptops. Com o término dos lances livres aquele que
> fez a melhor oferta tem direito de reelaborá-la para se  
> compatibilizar
> com o "preço de referência".
>
> Os demais concorrentes ficam de fora desta parte do leilão.
>
> Se a Positivo não conseguir apresentar uma oferta de acordo com as
> expectativas do governo o leilão pode ser cancelado.
>
> Um abraço,
> Jaime Balbino
>
> Em 19/12/07, Alexandre Van de Sande<alexandrevandesande at gmail.com>  
> escreveu:
>> e jaime, nunca havia falado do CM21, e aprentemenrte o google nao  
>> foi muito
>> útil. Que laptop é esse?
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2007 12:41 PM, Alexandre Van de Sande <
>> alexandrevandesande at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> então a positivo informática tem um laptop que faz mesh  
>>> networking, tem
>> camera, microfone e que atende as exigencias de tela e resistencia do
>> edital?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2007 12:34 PM, Paulo Drummond < ptdrumm at terra.com.br>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado: -
>>>> Situação do Item: Realizar Aceitação    Qtde Aceita:
>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> CNPJ/CPF        Razão Social/Nome       Porte
>>>> ME/EPP  Declaração
>>>> ME/EPP  Qtde
>>>> Ofertada        Melhor Lance
>>>> (R$)    Data/Hora
>>>> Melhor Lance    Valor Negoc.
>>>> (R$)    Situação do Lance
>>>> 81.243.735/0001-48      POSITIVO INFORMATICA S/A        Não      
>>>> Não
>> 150.000
>>>> 98.180.000,0000         19/12/2007 12:15:31:553
>>>> Marca: Positivo Informática
>>>> Fabricante: POSITIVO INFORMÁTICA S.A.
>>>> Descrição Complementar: Atende plenamente as especificações,
>>>> condições e prazos exigidos no edital e anexos.
>>>> 07.130.025/0001-59      DIGIBRAS INDUSTRIA DO BRASIL S/A        Sim
>> Não
>>>> 150.000         98.800.000 ,0000         19/12/2007 12:12:55:287
>>>> Marca: CCE - Modelo CM 21
>>>> Fabricante: Digibras
>>>> Descrição Complementar: Informamos que atendemos todos os  
>>>> requisitos
>>>> do Edital conforme Item 8 do anexo 1
>>>> 06.964.587/0001-35      SIMM - SOLUCOES INTELIGENTES PARA  
>>>> MERCADO MOVEL
>>>> DO BRAS         Não     Não     150.000         104.595.000,0000
>> 19/12/2007 11:58:57:583
>>>> Marca: OLPC XO
>>>> Fabricante: OLPC
>>>> Descrição Complementar: Computador Laptop Educacional  
>>>> Desenvolvido
>>>> para Utilização por Crianças
>>>> 01.169.999/0001-60      REIFASA COMERCIAL LTDA  Sim     Não      
>>>> 150.000
>>>> 113.999.990,9900        19/12/2007 11:53:41:430
>>>> Marca: CCE
>>>> Fabricante: CCE
>>>> Descrição Complementar: Atende a todas as especificações do  
>>>> edital.
>>>> 54.526.082/0004-84      ITAUTEC S.A. - GRUPO ITAUTEC    Não      
>>>> Não
>> 150.000
>>>> 175.579.460,0000        18/12/2007 15:19:06:850
>>>> Marca: Itautec
>>>> Fabricante: Itautec
>>>> Descrição Complementar: De acordo com as especificações do  
>>>> Edital nº
>>>> 59/2007 e seus Anexos
>>>> 03.474.553/0001-74      TELIS ELETRONICOS LTDA.         Não      
>>>> Não
>> 150.000
>>>> 450.000.000,0000        18/12/2007 14:45:03:380
>>>> Marca: Pacific Network
>>>> Fabricante: Pacific Network
>>>> Descrição Complementar: Lap To conforme descrição do edital.
>>>> 08.762.474/0001-82      AUTOSIS INFORMATICA LTDA EPP    Sim     Sim
>> 150.000
>>>> 750.000.000,0000        18/12/2007 14:45:03:397
>>>> Marca: SONY
>>>> Fabricante: SONY
>>>> Descrição Complementar: ESPECIFICACÕES EM NOSSA PROPOSTA
>>>> 05.201.844/0001-14      MAIS IMAGEM LOCACOES LTDA EPP   Sim     Sim
>> 150.000
>>>> 2.250.000.000,0000      18/12/2007 14:45:03:397
>>>> Marca: acer / sony vaio
>>>> Fabricante: acer / sony vaio
>>>> Descrição Complementar: descrição conforme edital e seus anexos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:29 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Como você sabe que foi da Positivo, Paulo?
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Paulo Drummond<ptdrumm at terra.com.br> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Jaime Balbino wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A fase de lance está encerrada. O melhor lance foi de 98,18  
>>>>>>> milhões
>>>>>>> de reais.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Da Positivo (Classmate)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> O pregoeiro ainda afirma que o valor é alto, por isso o leilão
>>>>>>> entrará
>>>>>>> em uma nova fase de negociação via chat direto com ele.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vamos continuar acompanhando.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> O Alexandre e eu achamos que o "preço de referência" não  
>>>>>>> deve ser
>>>>>>> US$
>>>>>>> 250, mas algo próximo dos US$ 350 para poder incluir os  
>>>>>>> impostos
>>>>>>> e os
>>>>>>> demais compromissos. Se for isso, o último valor ofertado  
>>>>>>> não estará
>>>>>>> longe da meta do governo, que seria de US$ 94,5 milhões
>>>>>>> aproximadamente.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>> Jaime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MINISTÉRIO DA EDUCAÇÃO
>>>>>>> Fundo Nacional de Desenvolvimento da Educação
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pregão nº 592007 - Eletrônico
>>>>>>> Objeto: Objeto: Pregão Eletrônico - Contratação de empresa
>>>>>>> especializada para fornecimento de 150.000 equipamentos  
>>>>>>> portáteis
>>>>>>> denominados laptops educacionais, para atendimento de 300  
>>>>>>> escolas do
>>>>>>> Piloto do Projeto ´Um Computador por Aluno (UCA), na forma e
>>>>>>> condições
>>>>>>> estabelecidas no Edital e seus anexos.
>>>>>>> Data da Realização (início dos lances): 18/12/2007 14:30
>>>>>>> Data da Abertura da Sessão: 18/12/2007 14:45
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Para ver as propostas recebidas, clique sobre o número do item.
>>>>>>> Item  Descrição       Tratamento
>>>>>>> Diferenciado  Situação        Melhor Lance
>>>>>>> 1     MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP     -       Realizar
>>>>>>> Aceitação      R$
>>>>>>> 98.180.000,0000
>>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo I: Participação Exclusiva de ME/ 
>>>>>>> EPP
>>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo II: Exigência de  
>>>>>>> subcontratação de
>>>>>>> ME/EPP
>>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo III: Cota para participação  
>>>>>>> exclusiva
>>>>>>> de ME/EPP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MINISTÉRIO DA EDUCAÇÃO
>>>>>>> Fundo Nacional de Desenvolvimento da Educação
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pregão nº 592007 - Eletrônico
>>>>>>> Objeto: Objeto: Pregão Eletrônico - Contratação de empresa
>>>>>>> especializada para fornecimento de 150.000 equipamentos  
>>>>>>> portáteis
>>>>>>> denominados laptops educacionais, para atendimento de 300  
>>>>>>> escolas do
>>>>>>> Piloto do Projeto ´Um Computador por Aluno (UCA), na forma e
>>>>>>> condições
>>>>>>> estabelecidas no Edital e seus anexos.
>>>>>>> Data da Realização (início dos lances): 18/12/2007 14:30
>>>>>>> Data da Abertura da Sessão: 18/12/2007 14:45
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Para ver as propostas recebidas, clique sobre o número do item.
>>>>>>> Item  Descrição       Tratamento
>>>>>>> Diferenciado  Situação        Melhor Lance
>>>>>>> 1     MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP     -       Realizar
>>>>>>> Aceitação      R$
>>>>>>> 98.180.000,0000
>>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo I: Participação Exclusiva de ME/ 
>>>>>>> EPP
>>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo II: Exigência de  
>>>>>>> subcontratação de
>>>>>>> ME/EPP
>>>>>>> Tratamento Diferenciado Tipo III: Cota para participação  
>>>>>>> exclusiva
>>>>>>> de ME/EPP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sos do leilão. Se o valor for esse o último valor ofertado  
>>>>>>> não está
>>>>>>> longe do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com > escreveu:
>>>>>>>> Rompemos a barreira dos 100! A melhores ofertas foram 99,736
>>>>>>>> milhões
>>>>>>>> de reais e de 99,4 milhões agora.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<jaimebalb at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>> O pregoeiro ameçou revogar o leilão se os valores não  
>>>>>>>>> chegarem ao
>>>>>>>>> "preço de referência" que só ele sabe qual é.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> O menor lance até agora é 101,5 milhões de reais.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> E continua caindo...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<jaimebalb at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> O preço continua caindo com várias ofertas, a última é  
>>>>>>>>>> de 103,7
>>>>>>>>>> milhões ou R$ 691,33. Se o governo tirar os impostos como
>>>>>>>>>> prometeu o
>>>>>>>>>> valor final ficará abaixo de R$ 350 por máquina.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mesmo assim o pregoeiro avisou mais uma vez que os valores  
>>>>>>>>>> estão
>>>>>>>>>> "muito acima" do esperado e aguarda mais "propostas  
>>>>>>>>>> efetivas".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Não dá para saber até onde isso é verdade ou se é só  
>>>>>>>>>> "caô" do
>>>>>>>>>> preogoeiro.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>>>>> Jaime.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<jaimebalb at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>> Outra oferta de 105,45 milhões de reais ou R$ 703.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<jaimebalb at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> A estratégia parece que funcionou, a melhor oferta  
>>>>>>>>>>>> agora é
>>>>>>>>>>>> 107,92
>>>>>>>>>>>> milhões de reais.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alguém ofertou R$ 109,7 milhões!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<jaimebalb at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A queda livre continua a menos de 1 minuto do  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerramento.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O melhor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valor agora é R$ 116 milhões.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com >  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O melhor lance até agora é de 117,8 milhões. Faltam 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutos para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> término do leilão.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As ofertas estão aparecendo muito rápido, agora já  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estamos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em 118,35
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milhões. Mas o pregoeiro fala:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (19/12/2007 11:36:54)   É com muita tristeza que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informamos que os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lances ainda estão muito acima da expectativa da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração e do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orçamento previsto para esta aquisição, mesmo com a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proximidade do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> período de 'Encerramento Aleatório'. Voltamos a  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lembrar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que seremos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obrigados a cancelar o certame caso a expectativa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orçamentária não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seja alcançada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja, o leilão pode dar em nada!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não sei se o pregoeiro irá divulgar o tal "valor de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência" para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forçar um acordo de última hora.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Os lances estão rápidos, agora é 118,5. menos 100  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mil em
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relação ao anterior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não dá para saber se é o mesmo licitante tentando  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chegar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ao valor "de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência" ou se está havendo disputa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agora o lance é de 118,6 milhões. Uma redução  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridícula
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para a proposta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anterior, mas bem considerável para o primeiro  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> melhor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lance de ontem,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior aos 140 milhões de reais.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mais um lance um pouquinho melhor, de 118,699  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milhões,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou seja R$ 1,34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais barato que o anterior por máquina.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino<jaimebalb at gmail.com >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O melhor valor agora é 118,7 milhões de reais  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou R$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 791,33 por máquina.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E o leilão está acabando, pregoeiro fala:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (19/12/2007 11:19:34)   Atenção! Entramos no  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> período
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 'Iminência de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Encerramento' no qual os lances podem e devem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuar a ser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encaminhados, principalmente em função de que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuam muito elevados
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em relação ao preço de referência da  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja os preços continuam altos para o  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregoeiro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mas o leilão se
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerrá mesmo assim, aleatoriamente, após às  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:47h.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o preogeiro também alega que: "Todavia,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comunicamos que caso não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seja alcançada a meta de preço pretendida pela
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração, o pregão
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> não será adjudicado."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou seja, quem ganhar não necessariamente irá  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rompemos a barreira dos 120. O melhor lance  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agora é
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 119,2 milhões.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mais um lance abaixo de 123,5 milhões de reais  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou R$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 823 por máquina.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 19/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Os lances estão abaixando, já diminuíram do  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entorno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 127 milhões de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais para 124,9 milhões. Uma redução bem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considerável.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o pregoeiro continua insistindo que o valor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> está alto e pede
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> também que a composição de preços inclua  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> todos os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impostos por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escrito.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não dá para saber quem deu o lance ou se todas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essas reduções são do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmo concorrente ou ainda se está havendo uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disputa entre dois ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais concorrentes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/12/07, Jaime Balbino< jaimebalb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dei uma olhada agora. O leilão ficou  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspenso às
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:00h e será
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retomado amanhã cedo (9:30h). O menor valor  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agora
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> é 128,26 milhões de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais, quase 20 milhões de diferença para a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primeira proposta maisd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baixa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eu e outros erramos feio ao achar que o  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preço não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poderia cair mais.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas o pregoeiro ainda afirma que o valor  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> está bem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acima do "preço de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência", que só ele sabe qual é.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abaixo transcrevo as últimas mensagens do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregoeiro:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "(18/12/2007 18:02:24) Senhores, chegamos ao  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deste dia sem que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> houvesse uma redução de preços realmente
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significativa, sendo que os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valores cotados permanecem completamente
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaceitáveis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:03:02) Desta forma, considerando
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que os preços cotados
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permanecem MUITO altos em relação ao preço  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referência da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração, o que impede de entrar no  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> período
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de iminência de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encerramento, suspenderemos o pregão neste  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> momento
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para avaliação.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retornaremos amanhã, 19/12/2007, às 9:30h,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> novas informações,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ficando desde já todos os licitantes  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convocados a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acompanhar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:04:00) Nesse ínterim, pedimos o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esforço de todos no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentido de revisar suas planilhas de custos,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de cotar preços
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compatíveis com aquele orçado pela  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administração.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 18:04:22) Obrigado!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/12/07, José Antonio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < joseantoniorocha at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescriçãoTratamento
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSituaçãoMelhor Lance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescriçãoTratamento
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSituaçãoMelhor Lance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP - Aberto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para Lances 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAPTOP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Aberto para Lances R$ 129.700.000,0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 5:52 PM, José Antonio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < joseantoniorocha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pequenos cálculos com o preço atual aqui:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> key=pH0vKjJkMrh3kdYXJ2dlaJA&hl=pt_BR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 5:50 PM, José Antonio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <joseantoniorocha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pregoeiro fala:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (18/12/2007 17:41:38) Comunicamos que não  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> está
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sendo levada em consideração qualquer  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redução
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de preço com base em convênio publicado  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nesta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ItemDescriçãoTratamento
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DiferenciadoSituaçãoMelhor Lance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 MICROCOMPUTADOR PESSOAL TIPO LAPTOP -  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aberto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para Lances R$ 140.100.000,0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 2007 3:29 PM, Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaimebalb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pessoal,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Estou acompanhando a licitação de 150 mil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptops. O processo começou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14:45 (previsto incialmente para 14:30h).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tivemos 8 propostas, a mais alta foi de  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 2 bilhões de reais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pelos 150 mil laptops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A mais baixa foi de 143 milhões de  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais. Não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dá para saber quem fez a oferta.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Este valor mais baixo significa 953  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop. O problema é que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o governo quer pagar 300 dólares por  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> máquina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no máximo. O que dá hoje
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 840 reais por laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O leiloeiro está insistindo para que os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participantes refaçam a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposta para se chegar a um valor mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> próximo destes US$300 por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sinceramente acho muito difícil o preço  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais, já que cada máquina
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deve pagar todos os impostos normais,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incluir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o software do servidor e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ainda cada licitante tem que oferecer  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garantia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de 3 anos para o laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e o software do servidor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A OLPC, que teria um preço bom, custa 342
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reais hoje (sem frete),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somando-se todos os impostos o preço tende
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dobrar e cada OLPC sairá
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por 700 reais! Some-se o custo  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garantia de 3 anos, o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> custo de instalação do servidor (no  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caso da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC o desenvolvimento do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software já está feito) e o risco (que  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> é alto)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fica difícil oferecer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um valor razoável.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas vamos continuar acompanhando.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um abraço,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "José Antonio Meira da Rocha"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tratamento: "Prof. MS."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mídias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googletalk: email: MSN:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joseantoniorocha at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 658222 Skype: "meiradarocha_jor"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veículos: [ http://meiradarocha.jor.br  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "José Antonio Meira da Rocha"   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tratamento:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prof. MS."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em mídias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googletalk: email: MSN:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joseantoniorocha at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 658222 Skype: "meiradarocha_jor"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veículos: [ http://meiradarocha.jor.br  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olpcitizen.blogspot.com ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome: "José Antonio Meira da Rocha"   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tratamento:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prof. MS."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em mídias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digitais"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googletalk: email: MSN:  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> joseantoniorocha at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 658222 Skype: "meiradarocha_jor"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veículos: [ http://meiradarocha.jor.br  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olpcitizen.blogspot.com ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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