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Hi Tomeu, gang,<br>
<br>
[I'm cc-ing Joanie Diggs, co-maintainer of Orca]<br>
<br>
I believe there are 6 key things that need to be done in/for Sugar to
enable use of the GNOME accessibility work for folks with vision
impairments. Others more expert in the specific details may
correct/amend my comments. I believe the 6 things are:<br>
<ol>
<li>The shift of AT-SPI from CORBA to DBUS (in process, not yet
completed, but builds of at-spi2 are in the GNOME code repository and
if someone would start playing and testing with it on the OLPC, that'd
be great!)</li>
<li>Implementation of ATK by the Sugar UI components (this is the
accessibility API that screen readers like Orca use)</li>
<li>Creating / adapting a magnifier service on Sugar for Orca. This
may be a fairly trivial port of gnome-mag (non-COMPOSITE edition), or
it may be a complete re-write</li>
<li>Porting Orca to Sugar. This may be fairly trivial, or it may
involve a new Sugar-style GUI, etc.</li>
<li>Adding theme support go Sugar for vision impairments - things
like a large-print theme, and inverse theme, etc.</li>
<li>Ensure 100% keyboard operability of Sugar</li>
</ol>
<br>
Tomeu - are there folks in sugar-devel who have cycles to work on these
things?<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
On 9/7/2010 12:49 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTimXe673Y8DC5U-TiQHeLgwiZUgP_axBsENiR6w+@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 20:15, Esteban Arias <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy"><earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">no, I tested with gnome desktop.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
Ok, I can help you get in touch with the GNOME team that works on
accessibility if you want. They are very dedicated, friendly and
talented bunch. Collabora and other companies also provide services
related to accessibility and GNOME.
But nobody else than us is going to fix accessibility in Sugar so
that's why I'm asking if anybody here has interest in working on this.
The first need is finding someone who can tell us what needs to be
improved in Sugar so it can be used by people with no or very low
vision.
Thanks,
Tomeu
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">2010/9/3 Tomeu Vizoso <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org"><tomeu@sugarlabs.org></a>
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 18:25, Esteban Arias <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy"><earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy></a>
wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">xo-1.0 | F11 | Dextrose version | Gnome desktop | orca 2.26.3
If I set: "run at startup"
orca run correctly.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Hi Esteban,
to clarify, you configure orca in some way so it runs when sugar
starts up and it reads what is on the screen?
Thanks,
Tomeu
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">If I excecute "orca" from Terminal, shows error:
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/mouse_review.py:189: Warning:
invalid
uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GdkDisplayX11'
self._mouseDwellTimeout(event.detail1, event.detail2)
Displays Preferences dialog, but dont reads screen.
Regards,
Esteban Arias.
2010/9/2 Tomeu Vizoso <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org"><tomeu@sugarlabs.org></a>
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<pre wrap="">On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 14:51, Esteban Arias <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy"><earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy></a>
wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I install orca on xo 1.0 with gnome for f11.
If I config to start session with orca, runs ok. But if I execute
orca
from
terminal, dont run correctly:
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Hi Esteban,
could be that your email arrived to us incomplete?
Regards,
Tomeu
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
2010/9/1 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com"><pbrobinson@gmail.com></a>
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org"><tomeu@sugarlabs.org></a>
wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:10, Tomeu Vizoso <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org"><tomeu@sugarlabs.org></a>
wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:08, Esteban Arias
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy"><earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">hi,
we can colaborate with this proyect.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Excelent, have you tried already orca with Sugar? And with GNOME?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">I would say that the next step is for someone who knows how orca
is
used to give it a try and file tickets for the biggest issues. Not
sure we can make much more until then.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">The gnome guys mentioned this the other day and there's going to be
some more work done within gnome hopefully for F-14. So hopefully we
should be looking better for that release.
Peter
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
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Avda. Italia 6201
Montevideo - Uruguay.
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<pre wrap="">
--
Esteban Arias
Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
Avda. Italia 6201
Montevideo - Uruguay.
Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
E-mail : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy">earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy</a>
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<pre wrap="">
--
Esteban Arias
Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
Avda. Italia 6201
Montevideo - Uruguay.
Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
E-mail : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy">earias@plan.ceibal.edu.uy</a>
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