I have to disagree completely. I've personally tested every capacitive screen I can find and they are all utterly unresponsive to touch from my hook. Carrying around a stylus to simply answer a call on an iPhone or use a computer is not a realistic option.Believe me, I've done the research out of necessity. To make matters worse, I'm being shut out of an increasing number of mobile devices. A device billed as accessible that has a capacitive only screen is a contradiction in terms.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:08 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:timothyhobbs@seznam.cz">timothyhobbs@seznam.cz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
It is not true that capacitive input is impossible for people with prosetics. There where two long conversations about that, here and on the wiki(maybe). I could try to find them if you want, but I didn't catch it on 5 minutes of Googling. I think the solution had something to do with attaching metal to the end of the prosthetic. The results where that it is possible but doesn't work very well...<br>
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:15:13 +0200 (CEST)<br>Subject: Re: [laptop-accessibility] Fwd: [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar<br>Was sticky keys ever added to this project? That's a core component of accessibility. Also, in the future, if touch screens are added, capacitive ones will be a poor choice because they don't respond at all to prosthetic hands or hooks.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Frederick Grose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Forwarded to <a href="mailto:accessibility@lists.laptop.org" target="_blank">accessibility@lists.laptop.org</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:large;font-weight:bold">Forwarded conversation</span><br>
Subject: <b class="gmail_sendername">[Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar</b><br>
------------------------<br><br><span><font color="#888">From: <b>Tomeu Vizoso</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:16 AM<br>
To: sugar-devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br></font><br></span><br>Hi,<br>
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is there any interest in a deployment somewhere for a screenreader<br>
that allows blind people use the Sugar UI when paired with keyboard<br>
navigation?<br>
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I think most of the pieces are there, but without knowing how it could<br>
be used I cannot really test.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Tomeu<br>
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Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:07 AM<br>To: Tomeu Vizoso <<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>Cc: sugar-devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
</font><br></span><br>there's speechdispatcher in fedora that is used by kde and gnome and I<br>
currently maintain it. It was also at some point used by olpc as the<br>
spec file use to have olpc specifics in it. There's been renewed<br>
interest with it upstream and I'm working to get it into better shape<br>
for F-14 and once its cleaned up I'll push updates back to F-13 and<br>
probably F-12.<br>
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Peter<br>
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Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:53 AM<br>To: Tomeu Vizoso <<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>Cc: sugar-devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
</font><br></span><br>Yes, there are interest in La Rioja, Argentina. In olpc-sur there are request for this.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Gonzalo</font><div><div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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Great, do we have people there who can try things out and help decide<br>
what remains to be done?<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Tomeu<br>
</font><div><div></div></div><br>----------<br><span><font color="#888">From: <b>Gonzalo Odiard</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godiard@gmail.com" target="_blank">godiard@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:57 AM<br>To: Tomeu Vizoso <<a href="mailto:tomeu@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">tomeu@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>Cc: sugar-devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
</font><br></span><br>In this thread <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2010-April/005829.html" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2010-April/005829.html</a> there are people interested.<br>
You can contact Esteban Arias also <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-February/001653.html" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uruguay/2010-February/001653.html</a><br>
<br>Gonzalo<div><div></div></div><font color="#888888">-- <br>Gonzalo Odiard<br>Responsable de Desarrollo (pasando la antorcha...)<br>Sistemas Australes<br><br>
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hi,<br>we can colaborate with this proyect.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/8/20 Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godiard@gmail.com" target="_blank">godiard@gmail.com</a>></span><div><div></div>
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</span><br>Excelent, have you tried already orca with Sugar? And with GNOME?<br>
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