<div>Thanks to all for your help till date.</div>
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<div>We have got pretty consistent feedback about the sufficiency of the standard dots on "f" and "j" keys on the Braille keyboard. We agree that the dots should be made larger, and are trying to investigate the range of size of dots to reach the comfort zone for the children.
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<div>Any pointers at this end will be highly appreciated. </div>
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<div>Thanks for your wonderful support.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Manu</div>
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<div>Manusheel Gupta</div>
<div>One Laptop Per Child Inc.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Aaron Cannon</b> <<a href="mailto:cannona@fireantproductions.com">cannona@fireantproductions.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: RIPEMD160<br><br>I don't know how big the current dots are, so can't comment, but I see no
<br>harm in making them larger, just in case.<br><br>One hack my typing instructor used when the dots were too small or<br>nonexistent, was to put a dot of nail polish or Elmer's glue on the f and j<br>keys.<br><br>But to answer the underlying question, I believe that having dots on the f
<br>and j keys is all that is needed to enable any user to orient themselves to<br>the keyboard, assuming of course that the person can feel them.<br><br>Aaron<br><br><br>- --<br>Skype: cannona<br>MSN/Windows Messenger: <a href="mailto:cannona@hotmail.com">
cannona@hotmail.com</a> (don't send email to the hotmail<br>address.)<br>- ----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Jim Gettys" <<a href="mailto:jg@laptop.org">jg@laptop.org</a>><br>To: "Discussion of accessibility on the OLPC"
<br><<a href="mailto:accessibility@lists.laptop.org">accessibility@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>Cc: "Samuel Klein" <<a href="mailto:sj@laptop.org">sj@laptop.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:walter@laptop.org">
walter@laptop.org</a>>;<br><<a href="mailto:bigone@qon.lao.net">bigone@qon.lao.net</a>><br>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:38 PM<br>Subject: Re: [laptop-accessibility] keyboard for the blind<br><br><br>> On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 10:53 -0700, Peter Korn wrote:
<br>>> Hi Manusheel,<br>>><br>>> > Thanks for the idea about using the existent dots on "F", and "J"<br>>> > keys to locate the home row. We are trying to come up on a conclusion
<br>>> > whether the existent dots would be sufficient pointers for a child, or<br>>> > do we need more guide dots? Any suggestions/feedback about it will be<br>>> > appreciated.<br>>><br>
>> Please see ISO standard 9241-4 from 1998<br>>> (<a href="http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=16876">http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=16876
</a>)<br>>> which specifies the tactile requirements for locating keys on a<br>>> keyboard. I don't know whether this standard was developed by folks who<br>>> had tested with children, or with folks who have diabetes or some other
<br>>> issue that diminishes touch sensitivity.<br>>><br>>> For myself (adult, no diminished tactile sensitivity), the existing dots<br>>> on f & j on the XO prototype I have are just fine.<br>
><br>> I am an adult, with likely slightly diminished tactile sensitivity, due<br>> to a (thankfully slowly advancing) neurological condition.<br>><br>> I find the current "dots" slightly hard to feel at times, even on actual
<br>> production prototypes we have here. And the dots are likely to wear<br>> with use.<br>><br>> I suspect we should make them slightly larger.<br>> - Jim<br>>
<br>>><br>>><br>>> Regards,<br>>><br>>> Peter Korn<br>>> Accessibility Architect,<br>>> Sun Microsystems, Inc.<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> accessibility mailing list
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