[laptop-accessibility] Considering closing down the mailing list accessibility at lists.laptop.org

Gary Kline kline at thought.org
Thu Aug 22 01:19:20 EDT 2013


Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:56:34AM +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> 
> Successfully compiled your TTS software.
> Very cool, however with one caveat: it failed to set the voice to female, it will always return to male.
> Suggestion: We may need to put a stop playing function.

	yes, among many many other thing.
> 
> Regards,
> Allan
> 

	darn, I thought I had that figured out.  this part is based 
	on another espeak utility that was/is written in python.   I
	rewrote in C and tested everything: volume, Delay, Speed [WPM],
	pitch, and, along the top of the  "Options": Male[], Female[]
	.....  

	when you type ./vbc, and the almost-square pops up, you'll 
	see along the top menu:

	"File"   "Options"  "Help"

	clicking on Help brings a dropdown with

	"About

	How to use

	Using Gvim"



	I only got to 0.29 before I quit working on this  last april.
	you can mess around with the others dropdown menus in the Top
	{Help} button.

	vbc looks simple, and if not for the guys who lent their
	insights, I would be out in the garage, on my knees, breaking up
	the concrete with my head.  <<  bad joke, I know  >>

	OH wait, somewhere in the file .Config are the numbers 
	0 17 175 100 3   and IIRC, to get  espeak to speak with a 
	female voice, edit the "0" to a "1" and continue with your
	testing.  This is one place where vbc needs help.

	gary

	PS:  I would ramble on but my shoulder is starting to give out.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Kline" <kline at thought.org> 
> To: "Discussion of accessibility on the OLPC" <accessibility at lists.laptop.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:19:34 AM 
> Subject: Re: [laptop-accessibility] Considering closing down the mailing list accessibility at lists.laptop.org 
> 
> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. 
> Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 02:57:01PM -0700, Samuel Sennott wrote: 
> > I too would like to find another outlet for the conversation around OLPC 
> > accessibility. Hearing questions about how to create low-cost text to 
> > speech and communication solutions and the OLPC project is something I 
> > would like to get more into this year. 
> > 
> > Thank you, 
> > 
> > Samuel Sennott 
> > 
> 
> 
> Something occurred to me awhile back--namely, that there 
> are N types of Linux and there is some kernel {??} 
> or other difference that differentiates the distributions. 
> E.g.: are Debian and Ubuntu Linux equivalent? 
> 
> I've spent most of my years hacking on the "BSD" open-Unix; 
> thus my uncertainty.... ---FWIW, My new mini-keyboard 
> arrived and is much easier to use---. Anyhow, as far as *my* 
> version of free+open TTS is concerned, all you need to do on 
> your 12.04 Ubuntu is create a user account named "kline," 
> drop in the SHAR I posted on 01 jun 13, install espeak, gvim, 
> and type "make." vbc will be your voice in any 8859-[12] 
> tongue. 
> 
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Gary Kline <kline at thought.org> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. 
> > > Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:42:14AM -0700, Peter Korn wrote: 
> > > > Hi Gary, 
> > > > 
> > > > There are three developments coming out of the AEGIS Project 
> > > > <http://www.aegis-project.eu> that might be of interest. Take a 
> > > > look at Dasher for Android 
> > > > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dasher.android>, 
> > > > Tecla Access for Android 
> > > > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.idi.tekla> (that 
> > > > provides tremendous control functionality as well), and 
> > > > CCF-SymbolDroid <http://dev.androtech.se/ooo/content.html>(which is 
> > > > compatible with TTS, but more focused on people with 
> > > > language/cognitive impairments, yet still may be a useful choice). 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > thanks, peter, but none of your URL;'S did what by program does. 
> > > you would have known that if you have done some minor hacking and 
> > > exec's vbc. 
> > > 
> > > overworking {by putting in from 9- to 13-hour days} for nearly 
> > > three years caused my shoulder to subluximate. voila! from 
> > > severely disabled to damn-near Totally disabled. out of a job. 
> > > 
> > > I do not have android; I know the berkeley distro's at the 
> > > kernel level ...... well, that's if you go back to the 
> > > end-of-lawsuit. ihave slipped a bit. besides writing a slew 
> > > of freeware, I spent 7 or 8 years earning my MA in philosophy. 
> > > and because my shoulder is giving my grief, I have decided to 
> > > hand off vbc to whomever wants to finish it. 
> > > 
> > > the only shortcoming I see is that t o learn vbc requires the 
> > > use to learn a min of the "vim" text editor. this is neither 
> > > good nor evil//easy nor hard. but it gives the speech-impaired 
> > > user the flexibility of mapping abbrevs: "thr" becomes 
> > > "there"; "i" maps to "I"; and "ths" becomes "this" or "those" 
> > > depending on the user's desire. 
> > > 
> > > gary 
> > > 
> > > ps: vbc uses the GUI version of vim: gvim; espeak voices 
> > > whatever is typed when the window is closed. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards, 
> > > > 
> > > > Peter 
> > > > (former AEGIS Technical Manager) 
> > > > 
> > > > On 8/21/2013 10:34 AM, Gary Kline wrote: 
> > > > >Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. 
> > > > >Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. 
> > > > > 
> > > > >On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:34:14PM -0400, gabey8 at aol.com wrote: 
> > > > >>Before this list goes away, I think it would be worthwhile to visit 
> > > the accessibility of the recently-released XO Tablet. It's running Android 
> > > 4.2 Jelly Bean and has a lot of XO-specific software installed. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>What accessibility features in Android would allow disabled users to 
> > > make the best use of this tablet? 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>I have, in particular, an interest in text-to-speech capabilities in 
> > > Android. I know someone whose speech has been severely impaired by 
> > > Parkinson's Disease, and if Android offers an affordable communication 
> > > solution, I would recommend her purchase of this tablet in a heartbeat. I 
> > > know that the iPad offers such apps, and that there are ruggedized/bump 
> > > cases for it; however, we are talking about someone who is on a fixed 
> > > income; if Android can offer the same capabilities for less money, I'd be 
> > > willing to suggest the XO Tablet to her instead. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>_______________________________________________ 
> > > > >>accessibility mailing list 
> > > > >>accessibility at lists.laptop.org 
> > > > >>http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/accessibility 
> > > > > hello to everyone of the accessibility list, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have dropped out of working on my "Voice By Computer" 
> > > > > program some months back even though "VBC|vbc" works 
> > > > > well on my Ubuntu linux desktop. I was the first severely 
> > > > > disabled EE to graduate as a computer programmer in 1982 
> > > > > and have written several open source programs over the 
> > > > > years. "vbc" is my text-to-speech effort that was and 
> > > > > remains intended for people like myself with a speech 
> > > > > impairment. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > some very old data is available at http://www.thought.org/vbc 
> > > > > with a "src" link that will display a shar "List"; I put this 
> > > > > up late last spring informed OLPC. Several minor hacks need 
> > > > > to be made to store static data. ~/.config/inkscape/* is an 
> > > > > example. What I have in /home/kline/.VBC should be moved to 
> > > > > /home/kline/.config/.VBC/*. this is one example. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > vbc is written in C and GTK+. interested? have at it! 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Oracle <http://www.oracle.com> 
> > > > Peter Korn | Accessibility Principal 
> > > > Phone: +1 650 5069522 <tel:+1%20650%205069522> 
> > > > 500 Oracle Parkway | Redwood City, CA 94064 
> > > > Green Oracle <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed 
> > > > to developing practices and products that help protect the 
> > > > environment 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Gary Kline kline at thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service 
> > > Unix 
> > > Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community. 
> > > http://www.thought.org/HOPE 
> > > 
> > > 
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> Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community. 
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 Gary Kline  kline at thought.org  http://www.thought.org  Public Service Unix
             Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community.
                            http://www.thought.org/HOPE




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