[laptop-accessibility] Considering closing down the mailing list accessibility at lists.laptop.org

Gary Kline kline at thought.org
Wed Aug 21 20:19:34 EDT 2013


Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 02:57:01PM -0700, Samuel Sennott wrote:
> I too would like to find another outlet for the conversation around OLPC
> accessibility.  Hearing questions about how to create low-cost text to
> speech and communication solutions and the OLPC project is something I
> would like to get more into this year.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Samuel Sennott
> 


	Something occurred to me awhile back--namely, that there 
	are N  types of Linux and there is some kernel {??}
	or other difference that differentiates the distributions.
	E.g.: are Debian and Ubuntu Linux equivalent?

	I've spent most of my years hacking on the "BSD" open-Unix;
	thus my uncertainty....   ---FWIW, My new mini-keyboard 
	arrived and is much easier to use---.  Anyhow, as far as *my*
	version of free+open TTS is concerned, all you need to do on
	your 12.04 Ubuntu is create a user account named "kline,"
	drop in the SHAR I posted on 01 jun 13, install espeak, gvim,
	and type "make."   vbc will be your voice in any 8859-[12]
	tongue.


> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Gary Kline <kline at thought.org> wrote:
> 
> > Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
> > Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:42:14AM -0700, Peter Korn wrote:
> > > Hi Gary,
> > >
> > > There are three developments coming out of the AEGIS Project
> > > <http://www.aegis-project.eu> that might be of interest.  Take a
> > > look at Dasher for Android
> > > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dasher.android>,
> > > Tecla Access for Android
> > > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.idi.tekla> (that
> > > provides tremendous control functionality as well), and
> > > CCF-SymbolDroid <http://dev.androtech.se/ooo/content.html>(which is
> > > compatible with TTS, but more focused on people with
> > > language/cognitive impairments, yet still may be a useful choice).
> > >
> >
> >
> >         thanks, peter, but none of your URL;'S did what by program does.
> >         you would have known that if you have done some minor hacking and
> >         exec's vbc.
> >
> >         overworking {by putting in from 9- to 13-hour days}  for nearly
> >         three years caused my shoulder to subluximate.  voila! from
> >         severely disabled to damn-near Totally disabled.  out of a job.
> >
> >         I do not have android; I know the berkeley distro's at the
> >         kernel level ......  well, that's if you go back to the
> >         end-of-lawsuit.   ihave slipped a bit.  besides writing a slew
> >         of freeware, I spent 7 or 8 years earning my MA in philosophy.
> >         and because my shoulder is giving my grief, I have decided to
> >         hand off vbc to whomever wants to finish it.
> >
> >         the only shortcoming I see is that t o learn vbc requires the
> >         use to learn a min of the "vim" text editor.  this is neither
> >         good nor evil//easy nor hard.  but it gives the speech-impaired
> >         user  the flexibility of mapping abbrevs:  "thr" becomes
> >         "there"; "i" maps to "I"; and "ths" becomes "this" or "those"
> >         depending on the user's desire.
> >
> >         gary
> >
> >         ps:  vbc uses the GUI version of vim: gvim; espeak voices
> >              whatever is typed when the window is closed.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > (former AEGIS Technical Manager)
> > >
> > > On 8/21/2013 10:34 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > >Organization: Thought Unlimited.  Public service Unix since 1986.
> > > >Of_Interest: With 27 years  of service  to the  Unix  community.
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:34:14PM -0400, gabey8 at aol.com wrote:
> > > >>Before this list goes away, I think it would be worthwhile to visit
> > the accessibility of the recently-released XO Tablet. It's running Android
> > 4.2 Jelly Bean and has a lot of XO-specific software installed.
> > > >>
> > > >>What accessibility features in Android would allow disabled users to
> > make the best use of this tablet?
> > > >>
> > > >>I have, in particular, an interest in text-to-speech capabilities in
> > Android. I know someone whose speech has been severely impaired by
> > Parkinson's Disease, and if Android offers an affordable communication
> > solution, I would recommend her purchase of this tablet in a heartbeat. I
> > know that the iPad offers such apps, and that there are ruggedized/bump
> > cases for it; however, we are talking about someone who is on a fixed
> > income; if Android can offer the same capabilities for less money, I'd be
> > willing to suggest the XO Tablet to her instead.
> > > >>
> > > >>_______________________________________________
> > > >>accessibility mailing list
> > > >>accessibility at lists.laptop.org
> > > >>http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/accessibility
> > > >     hello to everyone of the accessibility list,
> > > >
> > > >     I have dropped out of working on my "Voice By Computer"
> > > >     program some months back even though "VBC|vbc" works
> > > >     well on my Ubuntu linux desktop.  I was the first severely
> > > >     disabled EE to graduate as a computer programmer in 1982
> > > >     and have written several open source programs over the
> > > >     years.  "vbc" is my text-to-speech effort that was and
> > > >     remains intended for people like myself with a speech
> > > >     impairment.
> > > >
> > > >     some very old data is available at http://www.thought.org/vbc
> > > >     with a "src" link that will display a shar "List"; I put this
> > > >     up late last spring informed OLPC.  Several minor hacks need
> > > >     to be made to store static data.  ~/.config/inkscape/* is an
> > > >     example.  What I have in /home/kline/.VBC should be moved to
> > > >     /home/kline/.config/.VBC/*.  this is one example.
> > > >
> > > >     vbc is written in C and GTK+. interested?  have at it!
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Peter Korn | Accessibility Principal
> > > Phone: +1 650 5069522 <tel:+1%20650%205069522>
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> > > environment
> >
> > --
> >  Gary Kline  kline at thought.org  http://www.thought.org  Public Service
> > Unix
> >              Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community.
> >                             http://www.thought.org/HOPE
> >
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 Gary Kline  kline at thought.org  http://www.thought.org  Public Service Unix
             Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community.
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