[laptop-accessibility] [Sugar-devel] screenreader for sugar
Joanmarie Diggs
joanmarie.diggs at gmail.com
Tue Sep 7 14:35:20 EDT 2010
Hi all.
Spare cycles are hard for me to come by; spare systems are not. ;-) I'm
downloading Sugar now and will try to take a look soon.
Take care.
--joanie
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:32 -0700, Peter Korn wrote:
> Hi Tomeu, gang,
>
> [I'm cc-ing Joanie Diggs, co-maintainer of Orca]
>
> I believe there are 6 key things that need to be done in/for Sugar to
> enable use of the GNOME accessibility work for folks with vision
> impairments. Others more expert in the specific details may
> correct/amend my comments. I believe the 6 things are:
> 1. The shift of AT-SPI from CORBA to DBUS (in process, not yet
> completed, but builds of at-spi2 are in the GNOME code
> repository and if someone would start playing and testing with
> it on the OLPC, that'd be great!)
> 2. Implementation of ATK by the Sugar UI components (this is the
> accessibility API that screen readers like Orca use)
> 3. Creating / adapting a magnifier service on Sugar for Orca.
> This may be a fairly trivial port of gnome-mag (non-COMPOSITE
> edition), or it may be a complete re-write
> 4. Porting Orca to Sugar. This may be fairly trivial, or it may
> involve a new Sugar-style GUI, etc.
> 5. Adding theme support go Sugar for vision impairments - things
> like a large-print theme, and inverse theme, etc.
> 6. Ensure 100% keyboard operability of Sugar
>
> Tomeu - are there folks in sugar-devel who have cycles to work on
> these things?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
> On 9/7/2010 12:49 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 20:15, Esteban Arias <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy> wrote:
> >
> > > no, I tested with gnome desktop.
> > >
> >
> > Ok, I can help you get in touch with the GNOME team that works on
> > accessibility if you want. They are very dedicated, friendly and
> > talented bunch. Collabora and other companies also provide services
> > related to accessibility and GNOME.
> >
> > But nobody else than us is going to fix accessibility in Sugar so
> > that's why I'm asking if anybody here has interest in working on this.
> > The first need is finding someone who can tell us what needs to be
> > improved in Sugar so it can be used by people with no or very low
> > vision.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tomeu
> >
> >
> > > 2010/9/3 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 18:25, Esteban Arias <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > xo-1.0 | F11 | Dextrose version | Gnome desktop | orca 2.26.3
> > > > >
> > > > > If I set: "run at startup"
> > > > > orca run correctly.
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Esteban,
> > > >
> > > > to clarify, you configure orca in some way so it runs when sugar
> > > > starts up and it reads what is on the screen?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Tomeu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If I excecute "orca" from Terminal, shows error:
> > > > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/mouse_review.py:189: Warning:
> > > > > invalid
> > > > > uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GdkDisplayX11'
> > > > > self._mouseDwellTimeout(event.detail1, event.detail2)
> > > > >
> > > > > Displays Preferences dialog, but dont reads screen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Esteban Arias.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2010/9/2 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 14:51, Esteban Arias <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I install orca on xo 1.0 with gnome for f11.
> > > > > > > If I config to start session with orca, runs ok. But if I execute
> > > > > > > orca
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > terminal, dont run correctly:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Esteban,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > could be that your email arrived to us incomplete?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tomeu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2010/9/1 pbrobinson at gmail.com <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:10, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 14:08, Esteban Arias
> > > > > > > > > > <earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > we can colaborate with this proyect.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Excelent, have you tried already orca with Sugar? And with GNOME?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I would say that the next step is for someone who knows how orca
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > used to give it a try and file tickets for the biggest issues. Not
> > > > > > > > > sure we can make much more until then.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The gnome guys mentioned this the other day and there's going to be
> > > > > > > > some more work done within gnome hopefully for F-14. So hopefully we
> > > > > > > > should be looking better for that release.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Esteban Arias
> > > > > > > Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
> > > > > > > Avda. Italia 6201
> > > > > > > Montevideo - Uruguay.
> > > > > > > Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
> > > > > > > E-mail : earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Esteban Arias
> > > > > Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
> > > > > Avda. Italia 6201
> > > > > Montevideo - Uruguay.
> > > > > Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
> > > > > E-mail : earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Esteban Arias
> > > Investigación y Desarrollo - Plan Ceibal
> > > Avda. Italia 6201
> > > Montevideo - Uruguay.
> > > Tel.: 2601.57.73 Interno 2228
> > > E-mail : earias at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
> > >
> > >
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